Haven’t used zypper but I have down loaded the 64 bit dvd version twice. MD5sum checks good but check media says dvd’s are no good, checksum problem. These are same type dvd’s (HP) I used for milestone1 and 2 with no problem. If you ignore the error messages and go on it eventually comes up to the license screen at which point I abort it. Is there any known problems with download of 64 bit dvd? or media check? Should I try zypper dup? is there a different way to verify dvd?
I am limited (downloads) to 10GB per month with out extra charge, I guess I’ll need to pay extra for another 10GB this month or find a new ISP that supports the county fiber network and offers more.
First. Remember this. There is no need to re-download the .iso
If you use bittorrent you can just force a re-check of all the pieces. Actually, even if you download it via http you can still re-check in a torrent client. So no need to waste bandwidth.
If the .iso is OK, but the dvd fails, then the burn has failed. I’m not aware of any issues. But I have had a disk fail the media check before and still do a successful install. It’s not a practice I would recommend but you are testing anyway, so what the heck.
I have heard people saying that the way that DVD / CD burning software ‘pads’ out the empty space before and after the data can cause a media check to fail. If you know the drive is good, and the DVD works, it’s a not unreasonable assumption that this is happening.
> Haven’t used zypper but I have down loaded the 64 bit dvd version twice.
> MD5sum checks good but check media says dvd’s are no good, checksum
> problem. These are same type dvd’s (HP) I used for milestone1 and 2 with
> no problem. If you ignore the error messages and go on it eventually
> comes up to the license screen at which point I abort it. Is there any
> known problems with download of 64 bit dvd? or media check? Should I try
> zypper dup? is there a different way to verify dvd?
I rarely use the media check but have burned CDs and DVDs with K3B, nearly
all of which then failed the verification step. I then used the “corrupt”
discs with no problems. I think it’s a K3B “design feature”.
I’ve had so much hassle with K3B that I’ve just installed Brasero (the Gnome
burner) and used that to create the M3 DVD. It burnt and verified the disc
with no problems although, as I say, I didn’t use the installation media
check. I doubt that I’ll use K3B again.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
>
> First. Remember this. There is no need to re-download the .iso
> If you use bittorrent you can just force a re-check of all the pieces.
> Actually, even if you download it via http you can still re-check in a
> torrent client. So no need to waste bandwidth.
>
> If the .iso is OK, but the dvd fails, then the burn has failed. I’m not
> aware of any issues. But I have had a disk fail the media check before
> and still do a successful install. It’s not a practice I would recommend
> but you are testing anyway, so what the heck.
>
>
Thanks wasn’t aware of re-check, I’ll look into it. Also I burned two
different, brand new, DVD’s with same result. Was thinking of trying older
1.5 version of k3b, since I have kde4-k3b-1.66.0-2.pm.alpha2 and related
devel and codec’s. Could be k3b problem.
>
> Haven’t used zypper but I have down loaded the 64 bit dvd version twice.
> MD5sum checks good but check media says dvd’s are no good, checksum
> problem. These are same type dvd’s (HP) I used for milestone1 and 2 with
> no problem. If you ignore the error messages and go on it eventually
> comes up to the license screen at which point I abort it. Is there any
> known problems with download of 64 bit dvd? or media check? Should I try
> zypper dup? is there a different way to verify dvd?
>
> I am limited (downloads) to 10GB per month with out extra charge, I
> guess I’ll need to pay extra for another 10GB this month or find a new
> ISP that supports the county fiber network and offers more.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Russ
>
Thanks for all the responses. I’ll look at recheck first. Since I used brand
new dvd’s (HP brand) which worked with M1 and M2. My k3b version is newer
one, may try older version if re-check doesn’t work. Also try installing
Brasero. I also am getting feed up with k3b lately.
> russbucket wrote:
>
>> I also am getting feed up with k3b lately.
>
> The last version of K3b that worked for me was 0.8! They’ve added loads of
> bells and whistles to it but forgot to make it do the basics.
>
Yes I agree. I used Brasero yesterday. Burned new disc from the iso that I
tried on k3b and it burned a dvd and checked OK. I then booted it and get a
error starting but if I continue (ignore) it, I get to the screen where you
can setup the partitions with no problem. I aborted there so I could do a
backup of my production data in case grub gets all messed up. I have two
seperate discs, one for production (11.1) and one for test (11.2) only thing
common is swap.
Today I will install M3 and see what happens. I went to Bugzilla to report
error but found no option for 11.2. Do you know where I report bugs?
russbucket wrote:
>
> Today I will install M3 and see what happens. I went to Bugzilla to report
> error but found no option for 11.2. Do you know where I report bugs?
> russbucket wrote:
>>
>> Today I will install M3 and see what happens. I went to Bugzilla to
report
>> error but found no option for 11.2. Do you know where I report bugs?
>
> It is there under “11.2 and Factory” on
> http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports.
Yes, at the stage of entering the product name you can select OpenSUSE 11.2
but when you get to entering the details - step 2 of 3 - you hit a slight
snag: the operating system list for OpenSUSE only goes to 11.1. I just took
the next option in the list “SUSE Other” and then, for the product version,
“Milestone 3”.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
I don’t know what sort of problems with k3b you have? I only had problems with k3b when i enabled unsafe operations and that way i destroyed my dvd/rw’s TOC lol! Don’t forget that the media quality may have a great impact. I never use low brand media, sometimes when you pay less then sometimes later you pay double the price. For me k3b didn’t work until the first alpha appeared (i guess it’s when the main developer of that app stepped in).
>
> I don’t know what sort of problems with k3b you have? I only had
> problems with k3b when i enabled unsafe operations and that way i
> destroyed my dvd/rw’s TOC lol! Don’t forget that the media quality may
> have a great impact. I never use low brand media, sometimes when you pay
> less then sometimes later you pay double the price. For me k3b didn’t
> work until the first alpha appeared (i guess it’s when the main
> developer of that app stepped in).
>
>
I don’t know what you regard as low-quality media. I’ve used disks from
TDK, Verbatim and Phillips and all have failed to be written and verified by
K3B since I updated (rather foolishly as I now see in hindsight) from
version 0.8. Prior to the update, I had no problems. The failures have
occurred on about half-a-dozen different CD and DVD drives.
The recording of the disk is rarely a problem, the program just can’t handle
verification and finds numerous ways of failing. I suspected that allowing
the disk to be ejected and mounted again automatically could have been a
problem so I suppressed that but rarely achieved any success. The usual
error was that it couldn’t find any media.
Someone suggested I override the writing speed as K3B had been
overoptimistic in some cases as to how quickly it could write. This worked
once in a while but one version kept giving a list of speeds from the drop-
down menu that were all a screen-filling 0X and 1X.
One of the latest incarnations of K3B not only failed to verify or find the
disk it had just written to but couldn’t find a drive either. I’ve no idea
what it thought it had used to write the disk with. To be fair to K3B,
nothing else on the system could find the drive so I rebooted - perhaps a
sledgehammer to crack a nut but it worked - as did the non-existent disk in
the non-existent drive afterwards.
The current version at least tries to perform a verification so some
progress has been made but it always fails on the first track.
I have had no trouble using any of the recorded data on any of the disks
apart from those that had been rewritten many times; K3B routinely failed on
brand new disks.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
It may be true but it means that in YOUR case it doesn’t work well which might be also a hardware problem. I don’t know if it is SATA or IDE burner but i had many times problems with an IDE dvd burner if i had another disk on the tape. EIDE is pretty crappy:) SATA is the way to go With IDE when burning a disc the hardware cache (those 2 or 4 MB in the burner) was fluctuating wildly while in SATA it stays all the time the same due to lower latency i guess and the reason that every disk is on it’s own lane
Anyway, for me k3b works flawlessly (when it didn’t then i figured out that it was my fault )
> BenderBendingRodriguez wrote:
>
>>
>> I don’t know what sort of problems with k3b you have? I only had
>> problems with k3b when i enabled unsafe operations and that way i
>> destroyed my dvd/rw’s TOC lol! Don’t forget that the media quality may
>> have a great impact. I never use low brand media, sometimes when you pay
>> less then sometimes later you pay double the price. For me k3b didn’t
>> work until the first alpha appeared (i guess it’s when the main
>> developer of that app stepped in).
>>
>>
>
> I don’t know what you regard as low-quality media. I’ve used disks from
> TDK, Verbatim and Phillips and all have failed to be written and verified
> by K3B since I updated (rather foolishly as I now see in hindsight) from
> version 0.8. Prior to the update, I had no problems. The failures have
> occurred on about half-a-dozen different CD and DVD drives.
>
> The recording of the disk is rarely a problem, the program just can’t
> handle verification and finds numerous ways of failing. I suspected that
> allowing the disk to be ejected and mounted again automatically could have
> been a problem so I suppressed that but rarely achieved any success. The
> usual error was that it couldn’t find any media.
>
> Someone suggested I override the writing speed as K3B had been
> overoptimistic in some cases as to how quickly it could write. This worked
> once in a while but one version kept giving a list of speeds from the
> drop- down menu that were all a screen-filling 0X and 1X.
>
> One of the latest incarnations of K3B not only failed to verify or find
> the disk it had just written to but couldn’t find a drive either. I’ve no
> idea what it thought it had used to write the disk with. To be fair to
> K3B, nothing else on the system could find the drive so I rebooted -
> perhaps a sledgehammer to crack a nut but it worked - as did the
> non-existent disk in the non-existent drive afterwards.
>
> The current version at least tries to perform a verification so some
> progress has been made but it always fails on the first track.
>
> I have had no trouble using any of the recorded data on any of the disks
> apart from those that had been rewritten many times; K3B routinely failed
> on brand new disks.
>
I have to agree with Graham, I’ve used the brands he mentioned and also
Memorex and HP. My problems occur when I use KDE4-K3B. If I reinstall K3B
for KDE3, it works without problems. I installed and used Brasero with the
original downloaded DVD iso and it burned fine and booted, same HP dvd’s.
Ignore the error about checksum wrong the installation went smooth. No errors everything appears to install.
After installatiom (Clean) everything I’ve checked so far works (kmail, konqueror and even Amarok with any issuse like M2 had). Only problem I see is my computer and Grub all show milestone 2. I used the repo’s supplied by the install program and the dvd. Is there any way to confirm what version I have? I remember seeing a post about this but I thought it said to look at my computer. I cannot find the post now.
Thanks for any pointers, My kernel is:
2.6.27.23-0.1-default #1 SMP 2009-05-26 17:02:05 -0400 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Do I need to switch to test environment and do another update?
I’m not on my M3 partition right now. It was me that recently posted in another thread saying try My Computer on the DE, because on mine it displayed the kernel (2.6.30 something) and Milestone 3.
BTW, you are not on M3 with the kernel you state above - that looks like the current kernel for 11.1???
> I have to agree with Graham, I’ve used the brands he mentioned and also
> Memorex and HP. My problems occur when I use KDE4-K3B. If I reinstall K3B
> for KDE3, it works without problems. I installed and used Brasero with the
> original downloaded DVD iso and it burned fine and booted, same HP dvd’s.
Another thing I’ve just discovered is that Brasero copes quite happily with
the over-sized Add-on NonOSS CD image for 11.2-M2. Writing it onto a DVD was
child’s play. It raised no complaints, didn’t throw its toys out of the pram
like K3B, just burnt the data onto the DVD and verified it with no
histrionics. Wish I’d tried it ages ago.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
>
> upscope;2008152 Wrote:
>> …Is there any way to confirm what version I have? I remember seeing a
>> post about this but I thought it said to look at my computer. I cannot
>> find the post now.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers, My kernel is:
>> 2.6.27.23-0.1-default #1 SMP 2009-05-26 17:02:05 -0400 x86_64 x86_64
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Do I need to switch to test environment and do another update?
> I’m not on my M3 partition right now. It was me that recently posted in
> another thread saying try My Computer on the DE, because on mine it
> displayed the kernel (2.6.30 something) and Milestone 3.
>
> BTW, you are not on M3 with the kernel you state above - that looks
> like the current kernel for 11.1???
>
I went back to the link and I followed the right one, but my email is on my
11.1 system, I need to make sure I did the uname on the right system. I’ll
check that first. What I need is another physical system instead seperate
disk for each.
> I went back to the link and I followed the right one, but my email is on
my
> 11.1 system, I need to make sure I did the uname on the right system. I’ll
> check that first. What I need is another physical system instead seperate
> disk for each.
On M3, Kmail will work unless you upgrade to KDE4.3 RC1 - kde4-kmail changes
to kmail (4.2.95-136.4). After that, you’ll be able to read mails but not
send any.
As to GRUB, I’m OK if I install onto a partition that already has a system
on it that GRUB is aware of. The resulting info that GRUB displays for the
newly installed system is of variable quality, sometimes unchanged from what
was there before, but the system boots OK. I tried installing on a partition
that GRUB previously knew nothing about and the boot mid-install tried to
boot a different partition.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
With IDE when burning a disc the hardware cache (those 2 or 4 MB in the burner) was fluctuating wildly while in SATA it stays all the time the same due to lower latency i guess and the reason that every disk is on it’s own lane