Mate and Cinnamon options on the install media

[Marius_Timu]

One of the strongest points of openSUSE was and it still remains the desktop “agnosticity”;yes I’m aware that it defaults to KDE but you can install any DE from the installer selection screen,and you can see that openSUSE pays the same attention to every DE,so my question is why openSUSE won’t put Mate and Cinnamon as options on the install media(given the popularity of these DE’s)?I would bet that there would be more users then say Xfce or Lxde!It would surely expand the user base of our beloved distro!Cheers!:shame:

[malcolmlewis]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:06:01 +0000, Marius Timu wrote:

> One of the strongest points of openSUSE was and it still remains the
> desktop “agnosticity”;yes I’m aware that it defaults to KDE but you can
> install any DE from the installer selection screen,and you can see that
> openSUSE pays the same attention to every DE,so my question is why
> openSUSE won’t put Mate and Cinnamon as options on the install
> media(given the popularity of these DE’s)?I would bet that there would
> be more users then say Xfce or Lxde!It would surely expand the user base
> of our beloved distro!Cheers!:shame:

Hi
Supportability and maintenance (only one maintainer AFAIK) spring to
mind, DVD space without going to DL. It’s available just like KDE3 via
adding a repository.

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[Marius_Timu]

I thought so,to bad,imagine how cool would be,because when you think about it,those DE’s(Cinnamon & Mate)are easier to use then LXDE and XFCE for windows newcomers;to have Cinnamon & Mate right from the start when installing would really make a big difference!Thanks for the reply!:’(

[please_try_again]

@Marius_Timu

I thought so,to bad,imagine how cool would be,because when you think about it,those DE’s(Cinnamon & Mate)are easier to use then LXDE and XFCE for windows newcomers;to have Cinnamon & Mate right from the start when installing would really make a big difference!Thanks for the reply!:’(

If you want a system which comes with Cinnamon or Mate out of the box, you might give Linux Mint a try.

[ketheriel]

@Marius_Timu

I thought so,to bad,imagine how cool would be,because when you think about it,those DE’s(Cinnamon & Mate)are easier to use then LXDE and XFCE for windows newcomers;to have Cinnamon & Mate right from the start when installing would really make a big difference!Thanks for the reply!:’(

Hi,

I maintain the X11:MATE and X11:Cinnamon repositories (and their respective childs); I’m also a part of MATE upstream, and I’m currently working on bringing MATE 1.5 to public; I’m just waiting for 3 packages to make it happen, mate-media, mate-mime and mate-system-monitor.

The Moniz Project was created to provide a re-spin of openSUSE with MATE as default Desktop for x86_64 and i386; If it can’t happen within project, then it happens somewhere else, unless openSUSE decides to revoke my account in OBS. Either way the webpage is being finished, and the support resources (JIRA and Confluence) are being prepared. Moniz will be officially live with openSUSE 12.2 (rebased) and MATE 1.6.

And if openSUSE wants me to maintain MATE within openSUSE and add it to their distribution, all they need to do is ping me… everything is set on my side… and if they want someone else to do it, my packages are in OBS for anyone to use or fork/branch them… The necessary changes for MATE integration in openSUSE were pushed a few ago by me… so we’re cool!

Thanks for your kind words.

NM

[please_try_again]

@ketheriel

I maintain the X11:MATE and X11:Cinnamon repositories (and their respective childs); I’m also a part of MATE upstream, and I’m currently working on bringing MATE 1.5 to public;

And you do a pretty good job and respond to bug reports pretty quickly.

[nightwishfan]

Installed the Mate repo and desktop and it works really well so the packaging is a success. I will leave it installed for now, though it probably wont be my main env.

[Marius_Timu]

Wow just wow…but please don’t recommend me Linux Mint for changing to Mate or Cinnamon,the reason I asked was the necessity to be able to use openSUSE with those DE’s out of the box,because,you know I love openSUSE so much that I would marry it!

[Marius_Timu]

Nothing against Linux Mint,they do a hell of a job!

[rugbygangster]

If you want openSUSE with Cinnamon as the default desktop environment, you can get OpenSUSE Cinnamon.

And big ups to ketheriel for maintaining the Cinnamon repo!

[please_try_again]

@Marius_Timu

Wow just wow…but please don’t recommend me Linux Mint for changing to Mate or Cinnamon,the reason I asked was the necessity to be able to use openSUSE with those DE’s out of the box,because,you know I love openSUSE so much that I would marry it!

It’s not out of the box, but you just need to install the repo and then install Cinnamon, same for Mate.

For Cinnamon:

$ sudo zypper ar -f http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Cinnamon:/GNOME34/12.2/X11:Cinnamon:GNOME34.repo
$ sudo zypper ref
$ sudo zypper in cinnamon

[ketheriel]

@please_try_again

It’s not out of the box, but you just need to install the repo and then install Cinnamon, same for Mate

MATE will be incorporated in openSUSE once I have a co-maintainer; that’s the only thing really preventing it from happening. If anyone want to join up, knowledge of OBS isn’t required, I will train people for that. The only requirement is understanding on how to build software. This is ideal for anyone starting up contributions for openSUSE.

Any volunteers mail me at: nmarques[at]mate-desktop[dot]org

[Marius_Timu]

To bad I’m not a coder,just a hobbyist!