The new 12.1 installation will not complete the boot process without typing in “nomodeset” on the grub boot loader screen or using failsafe.
I would like to make “nomodeset” permanent. It solves the problems with my nvidea GeForce 6100.
After searching and reading for hours, I find only conflicting and confusing advice. Supposedly it can be done in YAST or by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file but I have been unable to find specific instructions. I know from hard experience that just blundering around usually compounds problems until they are so complex as to be unsolvable.
It looks like about half the problems presented here and in the hardware forum could be solved by presenting simple, explicit instructions on how to do this in a sticky file.
Done! Thank you so much for your prompt, concise, accurate reply.
Do I lose any GNOME 3 features by using nomodeset?
I am going to like openSUSE 12.1 once I learn to use it. There is one drawback that is probably peculiar to me alone: It doesn’t look an feel as much like Windows as 11.3 did. I personally like that. We are moving ahead and defining openSUSE as a leader instead of a Microsoft tag along. But …
I assemble computers from cast off parts and give them to people who cannot afford a computer otherwise. I can’t do this and pay for microsoft licenses, hence the use of OpenSource. 11.3 was enough like Windows that it takes about 30 minutes to get a Windows literate user up and going with it. They catch on pretty quick that Firefox is the new IE, Evolution is the new Outlook, Writer is the new Word, etc. The transition is intuitive and easy. 12.1 is different enough from windows that it will take more time and patience to make the mental transition.
Is there a way to get the look and feel of 11.3 under 12.1?
Yes, I know - thread drift. Ignore or move this question if you want.
So openSUSE continues to march forward, not looking back. The main differences in openSUSE 12.1 are the KDE & GNOME desktop versions now included with openSUSE, the kernel 3.1 and the usage of systemd. Further, I not a big fan of trying to downgrade the new kid openSUSE 12.1 to looking like the old kid. Of course, there are other choices such as this: openSUSE:Evergreen - openSUSE, if you want to go towards an older version. Further, there are other choices like this:
With SLRC, you can create a local repository, able to upgrade an older version of openSUSE, which might be past its prime from a local repository. The example is for Packman, but imagine you can add in the update or other openSUSE repositories. You can change the support for any presently supported version of openSUSE, saving it for when it might not be supported.
Further, you can install a more recent kernel with this:
I could go on and on, but you kind of got to find a slot here. Now it sounds like you are doing a good deed with your work and you only need to ask and we will try to help all we can.
As for the nomodeset command, there were several people that tried to get it used as the default to happen, but in the end, those that felt the native high octane video driver usage and its discovery would fall with the use of the nomodeset option who came out victorious even as not using nomodeset seems to have caused more trouble by leaving it out. You get extra points here for extra long sentences by the way.
At least we do our best here to help like caf4926’s great help provides us!
Old computers are harder to come by here in small-town Texas than they were in Houston so I don’t do as much of the rebuild and give away as I once did.
My next step is to go through the manual and learn all the new features in 12.1. That may take some time. I am sure I will have other questions along the way.
This is the finest forum on the internet. Even when I have problems with other open source applications, I usually find the answer here. The moderators do an excellent job of correcting misleading posts so I usually don’t crash and burn by following the advice given here. That isn’t the case on some forums.
No, but you need compositing and direct rendering. Otherwise Gnome-shell switches to fallback mode (which can look pretty much like Gnome2 after some theming and tweaking). If your GeForce 6100 is on board, it might be a good idea to increase video memory in BIOS.
In general, you’ll have better performance with the nvidia proprietary driver - although, according to certain posts, it’s not always the case with the GeForce family. I already set up a couple systems with GeForce 6150 to use Gnome-shell on Fedora, ArchLinux and Ubuntu (Unity & Gnome-shell). I don’t think the 6100 is a lot different. Those graphics card absolutely need nomodeset to install (any) Linux and run the nouveau driver. As soon as you install the nvidia driver, nomodeset is not required anymore - if it’s permanently disabled, it’s fine too.
Now that I have a bootable installation of openSUSE 12.1 with Gnome3 desktop, I need some pointers to manuals that cover this combination. Most of what I have found relate to 11.4 (or earlier) and Gnome2.
My most immediate problem is that Gnome3 seems to center around the Activities in the upper left corner. The problem? It isn’t there. All that is in the upper left corner is Applications and Places. Where did it go and how do I get it back?
I am more than willing to read documentation if someone will guide me to it. Then I won’t be such a pest here and might even be able to help someone else someday.
With the exception of Product Highlights, all of the resources you mention (including the ones installed on my computer with 12.1 & Gnome3) are about 11.3-4. They are nothing like what I have with the new 12.1 installation.
The gnome.org libraries do document the new interface. But everything starts with the Activities dash, which I do not have. They say to move the mouse to the upper left or hit the windows key and it will appear. It doesn’t. The Activities dash seems to be the starting point for everything in Gnome3 (like the Computer button at lower left in previous versions) but it just isn’t there.
Surely I am missing something so simple it will embarrass me.
I took a nap and woke up with the startling realization that Gnome3 just won’t run normally on my hardware. Duh?
Trying to make it do so is just an exercise in frustration. I am not going to get into the Microsoft/Intel treadmill of buying new hardware every time I upgrade software either. So I wiped the whole thing out with a new openSUSE 12.1 installation, choosing the KDE desktop. So far, so good. At least I am learning something new instead of trying to fix problems.
If I might be so bold as to offer advice to newcomers having problems with Gnome3, it would be to forget it and use KDE instead.
Thank everyone here for their accurate and helpful advice. This is the finest of forums.
It should work. You have the GeForce 6100. I have two machines with a GeForce 6150, one of them beeing a dual monitor that also works with Gnome3 (after I increased the video memory in the BIOS). You have to install the nvidia proprietary driver. Then Gnome3 will probably* work for you. Open a terminal and type:
zypper ar ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.1/ nvidia
zypper refresh nvidia
zypper in x11-video-nvidiaG02
Then reboot and see if you are in Gnome3.
I said “probably” because the 6100 is not the 6150 chipset, but there are good chances that it will work.