Lost hope in KDE.. How is Xfce?

I’ve lost all hope and confidence in the KDE team after v4.1

Version 4 was really buggy and had nothing but problems running on my system. I eventually had to roll back to KDE 3.5 because version 4 became so bad, I could hardly use it. I tried installing Version 4.1 and now it won’t even load. It tells me there’s a problem with the installation and kicks me back to the log in. I’ve given up on KDE. Desktops shouldn’t have problems like this.

I’ve never been a fan of Gnome and I’d like to try out Xfce. Anyone here use it? Is it well supported with Suse? And also, how do I go about uninstalling the failed KDE installation and install Xfce in the linux console?

Xfce is surprisingly decent, but I loathe GTK. And it looks like the GTK 2 line is ending.

KDE 4 is still quite rough, but KDE 3 is so damned nice, I’d try to fix your system and stick with KDE 3. That’s just me.

I can try to help you fix your system if you’d like.

The notion of needing to ‘roll back’ was unnecessary. You can have both
3.5.x and 4.x (and switch between them), which is what most all of us
are doing that are evaluating 4.1. We use 3.5 when we have real work to
do, and logout/backin to 4.x when we want to test.

So, I agree with enderandrew, install KDE-3 and use that until 4.1 settles,
(which, in fact, it finally did a day or two ago, in my opinion, with v4.0.98).

After reading more about Xfce, I’m not so crazy about it anymore… It looks alot like a copy of Gnome to me.

So with that said, how do I fix this problem, roll back to kde 3.5 through the command line? I have no gui at all.

I’ve been using xfce for at least more than two years now. If you are a kde lover, no problems because you can run both kde and gnome apps in xfce. If you have time to look at the screenshot section most of the screenshots I posted are xfce4. The last screen shot I posted is xfce and you will notice that it is running plasma (kde4) in a minimize window.

When I install a new suse version I only select the minimal option and add xfce in the installation. I install also kdm to have a nice login screen.

Now that you have an existing kde you can just run yast2 and install xfce from the dvd or from the repository.

When you get to use with xfce you will probably like it. I always want to have a simple desktop. Even in the windlows side I tend to hide the desktop icons and have a desktop with just the taskbar and a nice wallpaper.

Just my two cents worth.
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You can fire up yast from a command line and install software. Just select the KDE 3 pattern, and then you go.

It’s not even quite that primitive. At the boot-screen, enter a ‘3’ before it boots and hit enter-key,
which is a boot option (boot-to-runlevel-3) that gets you to a cmd-line login. Login as root,
and then run the cmd ‘yast’, which will bring up the text-mode-ui edition.

Choose ‘Patterns’ and select KDE3 Desktop Environment and let that run.
Exit out of yast, reboot (cmd ‘reboot’), and you should be back in business.

Before I fell for openSUSE and KDE, my experience was
with Zenwalk and Xfce. I didn’t like Zenwalk as a distro, but I did like Xfce. It is very low-cal yet
funtional…:slight_smile:

Check if icewm or fvwm was installed in your suse 11 installation. Look at the selection before you login and select either of the two and see If you can have a gui. When all fails with kde/gnome it is my first option before using the text mode.

Thanks alot guys. For various reasons, I’ve decided to stick with 3.5… Maybe I’ll try out KDE 4.5 when it comes out lol

I migrated from Ubuntu about 2 months ago because, inspite of all of the raves about the Buntu family, I was not impressed. I didn’t seem as functonal or friendly as everyone made it sound like.
Ever since I’ve moved to Suse, I’ve been blown away by the helpfulness of the community. You guys are great!

Heh yeah, 4.5 might do it :slight_smile:
I’ve been pretty disappointed with KDE4 line so far. But So huge rewrite does always take time to get mature.

I think that KDE4 as it is shouldn’t be released. I know that KDE devels say that it’s only a devel release even though version number. But if it was released under beta name or KDE4 devel version x.x.x or something it would have told people much more stronlgy that this is not ready, don’t use it just try it

I think KDE 4 should be released in its current state, because it is attracting more developers. It is a development platform with potential. However, I don’t think distros should have shipped with it yet.

While I agree KDE4 is buggy its way better than it was.