There seems to be no place to ask simple linux questions!
F’rinstance, I would like a cli command which would give me a brief report on what versions of Kernel, kde, nvidia driver, pulse, alsa etc, a sort of “software environment”… I am sure there is one but I don’t know it, and it is (almost!) impossible to search for…
Could we not have a sub-forum for people who are new to linux, and could place questions on cli linux commands…
There seems to be no place to ask simple linux questions!
There are plenty of forums where you can ask Linux only questions Linux Format | The #1 source for Linux to give but one example.
But to answer your question; if you select the ‘My computer’ icon in KDE, you will get the answers all in a single window. That is true of all distributions that use KDE, not just openSUSE.
OK and point taken!
There is no “My Computer” icon on mine! (“My System” opens a list of directories btw)
but the example was asking for a cli command…
I did find a system>monitor>kinfocentre in the menu tree,
TY non plus, …
Open a terminal or cli
su to be root and the command is uname -r to find the kernel version. The rest it is not hard to google for answer.
Hope this helps. I want to preserve my sig.
When you would have asked this in Programming/scripting or even Lookin for something? I would have answered:
There is always the looking for sub forum, here are some (I’m not a KDE
user though )
uname -r lsb_release -rd nvidia-settings -q 'NvidiaDriverVersion' |cut -f3 -d ":"
Most cli commands if your not sure run the command with --help
This is always worth a read and bookmarked as a reference;
However your original question is noted and something is currently being
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Ty to Henk, John, Malcolm and Conram for kind and useful answers.
But I deliberately asked the question here, ie “Can we not have a sub -forum”
The question itself was merely an example of a question that might not have another home.
I have just been publicly spanked by a member for asking questions in the wrong place… and am finding the forum quite a frustrating place ATM.
PM please if you have a problem with my attitude.:’(
Not a problem for me, I understand, it really just frustrating sometimes. the only way you can do is pause for a bit relax and when ready face again the task.
Thank-you, and your answer is the most correct of all…
it is obvious that here we get tons of folks with no clue whatsoever
about linux cli…
i’ve thought a lot about it and haven’t decided exactly how to ‘solve’
perhaps you are on the right track and a new-to-linux forum is
perfect…because folks need not to be ‘spanked’ for asking (for
example) “What is a ‘terminal’ and how do i ‘open’ one? And, tell me
why and how to become a ‘root’, too!”
but, i do not think it should be a sub-forum (under what?
install/boot/login?)…nope i think it ought to be a major forum,
maybe with sub-forums…and be the first, at the TOP of this page
however, until that gets built you need to go ahead and ask…or,
maybe (i know this is a drag, but it will put you head and shoulders
above the other n00bs very quickly) begin reading this foundation book
on page one: LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition
(Version 1.0.0) at http://rute.2038bug.com/
really! begin on page one because each new page builds on past pages…
[of course, the problem with a “Linux Beginner” forum at the top of
the page is that from then on it will be FILLED with posts like “I
downloaded openSUSE, double clicked on it and nothing happened. WTF!
This @%#¤ sucks! How do you expect me to try it!?!”]
In my post #6 I tried to squeeze a few things in a short message.
First I tried to give you an answer to he question of “what do I have installed and what is the version”.
Second I suggested that, at least I, could have used one of about two subforums that seem to me as the most logical ones. Admitting at one side that one can often have doubts about where to ask and at the other side that using the correct subforum might simply atrackt the right people with the most usefull answers. And that is where you are after: real help.
I e.g. do not look insite the Pre release/Beta subforum because I use only stable releases and can not be very helpfull there.
One sees also that even when people post in the completely wrong forum, people the neverteless try to help them. Mostly also pointing them to the right subforum. Not for spanking, but for helping (not everybody uses long sentences and that may look a bit short tempered, but it mostly is not, also do not forget that people for whome english is the third or fourth language making very polite messages is not easy).
Of course looking at the amount, names and coverage of the subforums from time to time is usefull. And I think triggers like yours are instrumental in this.
Dank U wel, Henk…
I would not dream of posting my trivial enquiries in “Programming and scripting”
I imagine it is populated by people on an entirely different level…
but thanks anyway, as I say, the question was merely an example of a question which might not have a natural home…
You can have ‘My Computer’ on your desktop. Create a new shortcut, it should have the command ‘konqueror sysinfo:/’
That would be all
I do understand (I think) the idea behind your question. The problem I have is that what is trivial to one person is mostly not trivial at all to the person asking. Also a lot of trivial things are answered in the SDB. Nevertheless I have to point out the existance of e.g. SDB:Login as root - openSUSE and SDB:Basics of partitions, filesystems, mount points - openSUSE several times a week. A subforum more or less, I do not care, but it will not solve the problem of newbies not knowing where to go.
> but it will not solve the problem of newbies not
> knowing where to go.
nor will it help solve these, and many other, newbies problems:
- trying to use that other OS’s ways…
- being ‘mad’ when the others OS’s ways do not work (can’t double
click an rpm, etc)
- not knowing the new lingo (root, terminal, YaST, zypper, etc etc)
- wanting to ask, rather than search/read
- thinking ‘free’ also means easy
> Ty to Henk, John, Malcolm and Conram for kind and useful answers.
> But I deliberately asked the question -here,- ie “Can we not have a sub
> The question itself was merely an example of a question that might not
> have another home.
> I have just been publicly spanked by a member for asking questions in
> the wrong place… and am finding the forum quite a frustrating place
> PM please if you have a problem with my attitude.:’(
Let me ask this question to you, why couldn’t those specific questions
be asked in an existing subforum? Why would there be a need for a
subforum just for new users? And lastly, why would anyone else you
correct subforums if there is a place where you could just ask anything
> perhaps you are on the right track and a new-to-linux forum is
> perfect…because folks need not to be ‘spanked’ for asking (for
> example) “What is a ‘terminal’ and how do i ‘open’ one? And, tell me
> why and how to become a ‘root’, too!”
And why couldn’t forum members do the same to new users in the existing
forums/subforums? Why should that polite behavior only be acceptable in
in new_user subforum?
users shouldn’t be ‘spanked’ in any forum…
and, short answers don’t mean the questioner was ‘spanked’…
(and, neither do long ones…some guy last week was kinda mad at me
because he ‘got it’ without the too long answer…
impossible to please all.)
> wakou wrote:
>> Ty to Henk, John, Malcolm and Conram for kind and useful answers.
>> But I deliberately asked the question -here,- ie “Can we not have a sub
>> The question itself was merely an example of a question that might not
>> have another home. I have just been publicly spanked by a member for
>> asking questions in
>> the wrong place… and am finding the forum quite a frustrating place
>> PM please if you have a problem with my attitude.:’(
> Let me ask this question to you, why couldn’t those specific questions
> be asked in an existing subforum? Why would there be a need for a
> subforum just for new users? And lastly, why would anyone else you
> correct subforums if there is a place where you could just ask anything
> you want?
Just to clarify, I’m not personally shooting down the idea but trying to
look at all sides of the suggestion.
In my long experience, people are reluctant to change. New things however, simple don’t sink in simply because they are in the don’t know.
Some learn by doing step by step, some grasp by reading, some by trial and error. None of them I consider wrong especially when you take in the global community we are working with.
Spank a new user who is frustrated with a problem and doesn’t know how to ask or search or even begin and I guarantee that quite a few will go away mad, hurt, or totally disenchanted. If they leave because of such, the experience actually can hurt the community.
Here’s a fair example I think. My accountant wanted to try Linux after working first with time share on ‘big blue’ then on M$ PC’s. He got the Mandrake distro read the install instructions
and perfectly installed the distro. Great! everything worked fine as far as the OS went even the dual boot Windows&Linux.
He tried to configure the internet and network to his other PC’s so since I was away he popped into Mandrake forums and asked for help to find the instructions which were supposed to be loaded onto his system as HTML help. The response he got was “RTFM you loser … people like you really make me wonder how many other brain dead individuals are out there”. Needless to say the response was by a moderator and he immediately removed Linux. He absolutely won’t even try Linux anymore and regularly tells his clients “don’t bother! I tried and found support isn’t there and what you will get is totally rude. Linux certainly had promise until I learned it’s only for experts.”
Point is we want people to see there is an alternative and not everybody (including those at Mandriva) are unprofessional a**h*les. A classified new user area can certainly help.
New to Linux? Look here
->Looking for help basics
->Click here to search for answers
->Click here to ask questions (points to Newbies and explains how to best ask a question)
Yeh Yeh I know that stuff is already in the forum if you look in the right spot
that’s my 2 cents!rotfl!