Linux kernel security update
29 Jun 2011
On 06/30/2011 10:36 PM, forumsadmin wrote:
> (http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_27_kernel.html)
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:40:10 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 06/30/2011 10:36 PM, forumsadmin wrote:
>
>> (http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_27_kernel.html)
>
> cool (again): HTTP 404 Page Not Found The Page Cannot Be Found
It’s wrong from the RSS feed that is pulled in here - GIGO again.
The most current advisory I find is at
http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_20_kernel.html
but I don’t know if that’s the right one.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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The feed comes from
http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories.html
I submitted feedback that the link for this advisory is 404. If these
show up in the future, feel free to check this page and submit feedback
so the right people are notified.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> The most current advisory I find is at
>
> http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_20_kernel.html
>
> but I don’t know if that’s the right one.
I don’t think so. I think it’s more likely to be:
<http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/msg00016.html>
or
<http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/msg00017.html>
On 06/30/2011 11:49 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> If these show up in the future, feel free to check this page and
> submit feedback so the right people are notified.
i just checked my bank statement and easily confirmed i’m not being paid
to either proof read for nor gently nudge anyone with a suse.de or
novell mailing address that they proof, prior to posting…
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:05:49 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 06/30/2011 11:49 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> If these show up in the future, feel free to check this page and submit
>> feedback so the right people are notified.
>
> i just checked my bank statement and easily confirmed i’m not being paid
> to either proof read for nor gently nudge anyone with a suse.de or
> novell mailing address that they proof, prior to posting…
You took the time to post here that the link was wrong, now you know
where to tell those who can actually fix it.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:05:18 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> The most current advisory I find is at
>>
>> http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_20_kernel.html
>>
>> but I don’t know if that’s the right one.
>
> I don’t think so. I think it’s more likely to be:
>
> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/
msg00016.html>
> or
> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/
msg00017.html>
The RSS feed points to (and comes from) the www.novell.com site, not the
opensuse-security-announce list.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:05:18 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> The most current advisory I find is at
>>>
>>> http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_20_kernel.html
>>>
>>> but I don’t know if that’s the right one.
>> I don’t think so. I think it’s more likely to be:
>>
>> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/
> msg00016.html>
>> or
>> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/
> msg00017.html>
>
> The RSS feed points to (and comes from) the www.novell.com site, not the
> opensuse-security-announce list.
And if you bother to look at the content, instead of the URL, what do
you see?
You see that they just repeat the opensuse-security-announce list. 
And if you actually check the feed now, you’ll see the missing page has
been supplied and the content is indeed the first link I gave.
Cheers, Dave
PS Your mail program seems to have broken the <url> formatting. What
are you using?
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:55:30 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:05:18 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> The most current advisory I find is at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.novell.com/linux/security/advisories/2011_20_kernel.html
>>>>
>>>> but I don’t know if that’s the right one.
>>> I don’t think so. I think it’s more likely to be:
>>>
>>> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/
>> msg00016.html>
>>> or
>>> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2011-06/
>> msg00017.html>
>>
>> The RSS feed points to (and comes from) the www.novell.com site, not
>> the opensuse-security-announce list.
>
> And if you bother to look at the content, instead of the URL, what do
> you see?
You have to understand that the RSS feed is picked up and posted
automatically here, Dave. When a bad URL gets posted here, it’s because
of the feed, not because of the mailing list.
> You see that they just repeat the opensuse-security-announce list.
Yes, but that’s not what feeds the posts in this forum.
> And if you actually check the feed now, you’ll see the missing page has
> been supplied and the content is indeed the first link I gave.
I’m glad it’s been fixed.
> Cheers, Dave
>
> PS Your mail program seems to have broken the <url> formatting. What
> are you using?
I use pan, and sometimes forget to turn off line wrapping when I’m
posting longer URLs, so it wraps them.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:55:30 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
> You have to understand that the RSS feed is picked up and posted
> automatically here, Dave. When a bad URL gets posted here, it’s because
> of the feed, not because of the mailing list.
Of course I understand that; you’re missing the point. But the whole
point of posting the feed is to provide security information in a timely
fashion to readers of this forum.
So when the automatic mechanism broke (perhaps because of a human
failing elsewhere?), and you suggested a link to the ‘proper’ website
that contained the wrong security information, I felt it was necessary
to post a link to the correct security information, regardless of which
website it’s hosted on.
>> You see that they just repeat the opensuse-security-announce list.
>
> Yes, but that’s not what feeds the posts in this forum.
It begs the question of why? This is after all an opensuse forum and the
opensuse security list, which is the original source of these
announcements, provides its own RSS feed at
<http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/mailinglist.rss>
So why not source the feed directly from there?
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:33:40 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:55:30 +0000, Dave Howorth wrote: You have to
>> understand that the RSS feed is picked up and posted automatically
>> here, Dave. When a bad URL gets posted here, it’s because of the feed,
>> not because of the mailing list.
>
> Of course I understand that; you’re missing the point. But the whole
> point of posting the feed is to provide security information in a timely
> fashion to readers of this forum.
>
> So when the automatic mechanism broke (perhaps because of a human
> failing elsewhere?), and you suggested a link to the ‘proper’ website
> that contained the wrong security information, I felt it was necessary
> to post a link to the correct security information, regardless of which
> website it’s hosted on.
Fair enough.
>>> You see that they just repeat the opensuse-security-announce list.
>>
>> Yes, but that’s not what feeds the posts in this forum.
>
> It begs the question of why? This is after all an opensuse forum and the
> opensuse security list, which is the original source of these
> announcements, provides its own RSS feed at
>
> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/mailinglist.rss>
>
> So why not source the feed directly from there?
I wasn’t aware of that feed, and I’m sure the person who set it up
wasn’t, either. I’ll suggest the update, thanks.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
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On 2011-07-04 11:33, Dave Howorth wrote:
> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/mailinglist.rss>
>
> So why not source the feed directly from there?
IMHO, it would be best to replicate the full contents of the post, not a
link to it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2011-07-04 11:33, Dave Howorth wrote:
>
>
>> <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/mailinglist.rss>
>>
>> So why not source the feed directly from there?
>
> IMHO, it would be best to replicate the full contents of the post, not a
> link to it.
Yes, I agree. But I thought that might be a step too far to follow 
On 2011-07-05 11:11, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Yes, I agree. But I thought that might be a step too far to follow
I think you can send an nntp post from an email, from CLI, so that part is
easy. The forum part follows via gateway 
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)