Lightweight desktops

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#1

I have been experimenting with various of the lightweight desktops so as to be prepared to advise any XP refugees. I was interested to find that Xfce and Razor-qt both take 370MiB on my system, LXDE 280 MiB and Enlightenment 240 MiB.

The figure for Enlightenment surprised me because, of the four, it is in some ways the most fully featured with almost KDE-like customisation options.

The only irritant I have found is that it does not support Parcellite or Klipper but otherwise I have been extremely impressed with it.

#2

john hudson wrote:
> I have been experimenting with various of the lightweight desktops so as
> to be prepared to advise any XP refugees. I was interested to find that
> Xfce and Razor-qt both take 370MiB on my system, LXDE 280 MiB and
> Enlightenment 240 MiB.
>
> The figure for Enlightenment surprised me because, of the four, it is in
> some ways the most fully featured with almost KDE-like customisation
> options.

I feel that people may feel more at home with Razor than E17.

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#3

Ido. On My workshop here in the north. Been there and -87 ant it was warm. Driving on the on the wrong side of the road.

#4

On 2013-12-31 23:06, john hudson wrote:
>
> I have been experimenting with various of the lightweight desktops so as
> to be prepared to advise any XP refugees. I was interested to find that
> Xfce and Razor-qt both take 370MiB on my system, LXDE 280 MiB and
> Enlightenment 240 MiB.

I just started LXDE on a system with 500 MiB. Top reads:


KiB Mem:    500628 total,   447144 used,    53484 free,    29840 buffers
KiB Swap:  6143996 total,    12824 used,  6131172 free,   270376 cached

Notice the 447144 figure for free memory, but subtract from it the buffers and cache: meaning the
total RAM used is 143 MiB, by the entire system. Quite far from your figure of 280 MiB for LXDE.

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Carlos E. R.
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#5

On 2014-01-01 04:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I just started LXDE on a system with 500 MiB. Top reads:
>
>


> KiB Mem:    500628 total,   447144 used,    53484 free,    29840 buffers
> KiB Swap:  6143996 total,    12824 used,  6131172 free,   270376 cached
>

Notice the 447144 figure for free memory, but subtract from it the buffers and cache: meaning the
total RAM used is 143 MiB, by the entire system. Quite far from your figure of 280 MiB for LXDE.

If I go to text mode, the figures are:


KiB Mem:    500628 total,   360780 used,   139848 free,    30024 buffers
KiB Swap:  6143996 total,    12820 used,  6131176 free,   261740 cached

Meaning the RAM used by the graphical system was about 447144 - 360780 (not considering
cache/buffers), ie only 84 MB. Not that much.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Elessar))

#6

Enlightenment was the fastest when I last tried. I am just not comfortable using it.
I use xfce full-time.

#7

http://susestudio.com/a/pRvzFf/minimal-klyde

#8

I dunno, I am actually beginning to doubt the validity of so called “lightwight desktops” for some older hardware, especially my fathers computer where everything seems to take up the same amount of memory no matter how much or little is running.
Especially where the latest KDE is concerned, its got extremely low memory usage these days.

#9

Please, we would have accepted the URL in normal font as well.
A personal revelation: I skip posts that appear to be “shouting”, know others do as well. My bet is that is not your intention.

#10

[size=5]YEAH BUT CANT YOU TELL THEY ARE REALLY REALLY REEEEEEALY EXCITED, SUCH ENERGY, SUCH PASSION!

I Know I can :wink:
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#11

I was serious. I sincerely hope you’re not actually doing everything you can do. You wouldn’t be the first one still thinking he can fly, whilst forgetting that landing properly is the culprit :slight_smile:

#12

On 2014-01-02 17:16, Knurpht wrote:
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> goro_goren;2612901 Wrote:
>> ‘http://susestudio.com/a/pRvzFf/minimal-klyde’
>> (http://susestudio.com/a/pRvzFf/minimal-klyde)
>
> Please, we would have accepted the URL in normal font as well.
> A personal revelation: I skip posts that appear to be “shouting”, know
> others do as well. My bet is that is not your intention.

Yep. I do skip them, unless I can find a compelling reason not to.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Elessar))

#13

I’ve read on lxde blog about razor-qt, they might soon merge into lxde-qt.
Definitely worth a try, I’ll check it out as soon as possible.

#14

Nah, just poking fun.
And no cant fly, but I can glide at least. :slight_smile:

#15

Yes but I may have more services running when I start up which are nothing to do with the desktop; I was mainly interested in the comparative figures rather than the absolute figures.

#16

http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE-Qt

#17

I hate to sound brash or cruel, but those boxes which are currently XP exiled should basically be given the heave-ho onto the recycle pile and for three to four hundred US dollars, a new machine which outperforms the old box by 30 times should be purchased. Windows 8 ain’t great, but it’s ten times better than XP. If people are that computer challenged, that they are scared to give up their XP, then why do you think they would like Linux better than Win. 8? These old arguments of Windows vs. Linux are mainly about tribalism, and I think those of us who like Linux should basically give up on the older crowd who have refused to try it, and admit that its the young people who we should be attracting. We have gotten along 20 years without the die hard XP fans; no time left to bother with them now.

#18

On 2014-02-02 15:16, BSDuser wrote:
> These old arguments of Windows vs.
> Linux are mainly about tribalism, and I think those of us who like Linux
> should basically give up on the older crowd who have refused to try it,
> and admit that its the young people who we should be attracting. We
> have gotten along 20 years without the die hard XP fans; no time left
> to bother with them now.

Nope. We should not give up on neither crowd.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)