Light snappy alternative to YaST for packages alone?

YaST is a big all-purpose config app. It’s a bit too heavy (starting up etc) for package management IMO. Especially it seems to keep refreshing repo info every time I start it to install a package.

Is there a lightweight alternative to YaST which I can use for package management alone? (I’m missing Kubuntu’s Muon…)

If you’re using KDE, try apper. I believe each window manager has a package manager. I use apper for looking up packages, but, I tend to use zypper to do the installs. I’m not a fan of package managers.

I don’t find this at all
But use a terminal

Here it’s
su -
zypper in <application>

or

zypper up

You could always turn off auto refresh in YAST and then it won’t run through the whole process when you open it up

Same here. I am a huge fan of Yast, think it is one of the best in Linux-land, and one of openSUSE’s strongest attractions (of many other fine openSUSE features).

So am I, but apper is snappier (which was the original request). If you have a number of repos configured, apper seems to go through its update process a little faster, and then if you go to ‘updates’ it is all there, presented nicely for you. (The ‘…last checked on…’ or whatever the exact text is, doesn’t seem to make any sense, though. Maybe I’m not understanding what it is telling me.)

If you are determined for speed above all else, though, zypper is probably the way to go. I just like the reassurance of seeing a clear list of what is going on before I commit.

I like Yast as well but for installing apps I rather prefer software.opensuse.org. It’s certainly handy if you already have a web browser open (most of us will) and it will find packages even if you don’t have the appropriate repo setup on your system.

Zypper is fine if you know the exact name of the app that you’re trying to install. not very good if you’re simply ‘shopping’ for an app for a particular purpose.


Leisa

On 2014-12-04 03:46, jamadagni wrote:
>
> YaST is a big all-purpose config app. It’s a bit too heavy (starting up
> etc) for package management IMO. Especially it seems to keep refreshing
> repo info every time I start it to install a package.

Any package manager you find HAS to refresh repository data. You can
force the tools to skip refresh, and then trigger the refresh manually
when you wish — but you risk forgetting to refresh when really needed,
and then you get strange errors.

You can fire up yast package manager directly without starting the yast
control center first:


yast2 sw_single
or
yast2 online_update

apper can be lighter, but it still needs to download the repo data. But
as it downloads the data periodically on the background, and then pops a
notice to ask you for permission to do the updates, it appears to start
faster than YaST.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

On 04/12/14 02:46, jamadagni wrote:
>
> YaST is a big all-purpose config app. It’s a bit too heavy (starting up
> etc) for package management IMO. Especially it seems to keep refreshing
> repo info every time I start it to install a package.
>
> Is there a lightweight alternative to YaST which I can use for package
> management alone? (I’m missing Kubuntu’s Muon…)
>
>

you can control the refresh, to some extent, by editing

/etc/zypp/zypp.conf

and changing the value of

repo.refresh.delay

I always set it to 900 (15 hours), as a compromise between “every load”
and “missing changes” - it usually means a maximum of once a day for me
and I manually refresh on the odd occasion it is necessary.


PeeGee

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Good tip.I think I’ll reset mine up a bit.