Calc was not stable. The lower navigation bar (for panning left/right through a
spread sheet) was only 75% visible and did not function.
No problems with the up/down function.
Trying to copy/drag a blocks of cells, blew libreoffice out of existence.
Switched back to libreoffice 3.3.3 - and all was back in order.
I am using Libreoffice 3.4.2 from the Libreoffice unstable repository and I have the same issue with the lower navigation bar (for panning left/right through a
spread sheet) was only 75% visible and did not function.
Also when I try to move a worksheet via the worksheet tab it blows up.
I had the issue with the copying/dragging a blocks of cells… but it seems to have been resolved.
is at 3.4.2.6-2.1. I upgraded to the stable openSUSE_11.4 repositories, and LibreOffice exhibits none of these reported problems. I use Calc more than other modules, and depend on its functionality. Specifically, no problems (I just tested each of the reported problems prior to writing this) were found with the left-right slide bar, copying blocks of cells, moving worksheet pages via tab drag-and-drop or any other keyboard/touchpad initiated actions.
In fact, the only Calc problem I have taken notice for is the failure to clear the window after closing a Calc workbook.
You might consider using the stable repositories for LibreOffice, then report the problems against the stable release.
The problem(s) experienced using the Tumbleweed repositories is/are, of course, a Tumbleweed issue. You can (and should) raise problems and issues in this forum. Tumbleweed represents a “rolling release”, and, within that context, should be treated as any other supported release. This treatment should apply to Libreoffice 3.4.2.6-2.3 as well as any other packages released under the Tumbleweed aegis. On a cautionary note, this view may not be universally held.
Another post in this thread, by TRoeschen, referenced
using Libreoffice 3.4.2 from the Libreoffice unstable repository
Such usage, and any issues or problems therein, should be treated as “Pre-Release/Beta”.
I wouldn’t know about “your” eyesight. Tumbleweed does release a tested stable version of libreoffice. Your issue is not with that release of libreoffice. That makes it pre-release wrt Tumbleweed.
If any other LibreOffice repositories are to be considered “Pre-Release/Beta”, such consideration is presented by a nomenclature problem. To wit,
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_11.4/
- and -
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
imply, by name, a “Stable” release. I use the former, and the OP uses the latter. The former is, of course, not a Tumbleweed issue. The presence of a Tumbleweed-named repository in a set of repositories labeled “Stable” suggests that these are not Pre-Release, except in the very narrow definition of Tumbleweed support.
(NOTE: The above is not intended as pejorative. Since I personally use a release marked as “Stable”, I have a stake in the support scope here.)
I believe it’s perfectly clear both in the Tumbleweed Project announcement and swerdna’s postings, from which repo Tumbleweed releases stable versions of its packages for the rolling release. The subject of this thread seems clear to me, and is not yet in Tumbleweed.
Seems to me that issues about repo-naming semantics as a way to determine an appropriate forum is “the tail wagging the dog”. Tumbleweed has just enough manageable complexity within the “standard” repo. IMO adding to that here with issues resulting from the addition of “factory” level content won’t enhance its reputation for stability, and those belong in Pre-Release/Beta.
This thread brought to my attention the extra Tumbleweed repo for libreoffice – I didn’t know that it existed. Seems to me we should stick with the libreoffice in the base Tumbleweed repo. [But of course we are all free and inquisitive and some might want to try out the special repo with the newer packages, but there’s an obvious risk IMO]. Just what is pre-release beta and what is Tumbleweed is hard to define in this case (after all the repo is labelled Tumbleweed … confusing).
@swerdna,
I wonder if for you with an “Administrator” role it is possible to find out who is in charge of that libreoffice repo for tumbleweed. And then asking that person these questions. Everybody here would be interested.
There is a general lack of information flow! Is this because of that frictions between
forums and
email-lists and
blogs and
bugs and
features
the openSUSE community is suffering from?
On 09/23/2011 04:16 PM, ulenrich wrote:
> There is a general lack of information flow! Is this because of that
> frictions between
> forums and
> email-lists and
> blogs and
> bugs and
> features
> the openSUSE community is suffering from?
heh! you noticed that too, huh?
i find it almost amazing that openSUSE is as good as it is with so many
unnecessary, artificial and high friction barriers to group coalescence
and focus…
pitiful…but: Have a lot of fun!
i guess all of the 476 contributing members do.
–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
I think you would get clarity if you asked on the factory mailing list about the relative merits and demerits of using the version in the extra repo --vs-- the version in the main repo for libreoffice (in Tumbleweed.). Make sure to put Tumbleweed in the title.
I think the so-called friction between forums and lists is all in the minds of a few, not real. I think that folks have their preferred places to hang, preferred comfort zones, but that doesn’t mean they don’t like the ppl who hang out other places. And I think it’s a red herring to put the bug reporting system in that mix, that’s like saying that two baseball teams and the electricity company are rivals for the affections of the townsfolk.
On 09/23/2011 11:06 PM, swerdna wrote:
> I think the so-called friction between forums and lists is all in the
> minds of a few, not real. I think that folks have their preferred places
> to hang, preferred comfort zones, but that doesn’t mean they don’t like
> the ppl who hang out other places.
you are, of course, entitled to your opinion (also)…
but, i don’t see where i (or the one i quoted) said anything about not
liking people who hang in other comfort zones…
the subject was friction in the flow of information, nothing about
“friction between forums or lists” and nothing about liking or disliking
anyone…
you missed the point, entirely.
–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
Yes, the mailing list [unfortunately IMO] should be the place to ask about or inform re issues with “backroom” repos and their content. By “backroom”, I mean any repos not referred to in the appropriate Wiki pages.
No. Tumbleweed is a separate forum from Pre-Release, and the Tumbleweed “Release” is defined until the project redefines it and communicates that by an announcement. An 11.4 developer might regard Tumbleweed as all pre-release…
(after all the repo is labelled Tumbleweed … confusing).
Well only if you thought that repo labelling could define the Release.
I confused you by being unclear. I should have said that OP keellambert would be justified in thinking that the experience recounted in post #1 would be interesting to Tumbleweed adherents because the repo is labelled as a Tumbleweed repo, and thus it would be appropriate to post that experience here where Tumbleweed readers would see it and comment on it.
