Libjxl 11 missing but available

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Sorry for the dumb question, but it will be also useful for me to better understand my system :slight_smile:
I’m using the nightly version of darktable from the OBS repository and after the lastes update it is broken because libjxl0_11 is missing.
I know that I’m using something that can be broken, but:

  • on my system my libjxl is v10 (libjxl0_10 from zypper informations)
  • on OBS libjxl is v11

So my question is: why if the v11 is on the OBS repo, is not taken in to account when upgrading?

Thanks.

Edit:

My repos and priorities:

➜  ~ sudo zypper repos -p    
#  | Alias                                    | Name                                                 | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority
---+------------------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+---------
 1 | amdgpu                                   | amdgpu                                               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99
 2 | devel_languages_pharo_stable             | devel:languages:pharo:stable                         | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99
 3 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss            | Main Repository (NON-OSS)                            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99
 4 | download.opensuse.org-oss                | Main Repository (OSS)                                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99
 5 | download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed         | Main Update Repository                               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99
 6 | graphics_darktable_master                | Darktable-Org Master snapshots (openSUSE_Tumbleweed) | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99
 7 | openh264                                 | openh264                                             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   90
 8 | packman                                  | Packman                                              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   70
 9 | repo-debug                               | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug                            | No      | ----      | ----    |   99
10 | repo-openh264                            | Open H.264 Codec (openSUSE Tumbleweed)               | No      | ----      | ----    |   99
11 | repo-source                              | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source                           | No      | ----      | ----    |   99
12 | rocm                                     | rocm                                                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99
13 | shells_zsh-users_zsh-autosuggestions     | zsh-autosuggestions (openSUSE_Tumbleweed)            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99
14 | shells_zsh-users_zsh-syntax-highlighting | zsh-syntax-highlighting (openSUSE_Tumbleweed)        | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99
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Every package has “vendor” property and by default zypper will not switch vendor for existing packages. Vendor in standard openSUSE repositories is openSUSE; vendor in third-party repository is usually something else. Repository priorities are only relevant for new packages.

If you need to replace a installed package with the package from a third-party repository, you need to explicitly (force) install this package from this repository.

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As I see it, version 0_11 is available from the Graphics repo:
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/
but you currently do not have that repo in your repo list and zypper only finds the 0_10 version currently in the OSS repo.
You may add that repo with:

zypper addrepo -f https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/graphics.repo
4

OK, sorry, I did not pay attention.

The graphics:darktable:master project is built against openSUSE:Factory, and Factory already moved to libjxl0_11. It will be in Tumbleweed after usual staging.

Arguably project should not call repository openSUSE_Tumbleweed in the fist place because it is misleading. Either it should be called openSUSE_Factory or it should be built against Tumbleweed.

5

Apologize, but still not getting the difference. I know that the darktable repository is something I added manually to get the nightly, but I do not understand the difference between the ‘default’ repo I have in my settings and the one you and I linked ‘graphics’. Is this part of the official repository or not? I do not want to mess my setup and I can wait for libjxl to be in the ‘default’ repo. Sorry if I misuse the terms but I’m not sure how to call them.

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No, it is not. Neither is darktable repository you are using (I assume you are using because you have not shown repository URLs and repository names are meaningless).

7

Ok thanks for pointing out the url:

6 | graphics_darktable_master | Darktable-Org Master snapshots (openSUSE_Tumbleweed) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

I think I better understand now; let me try to recap to see if I get this well:

  • I’m using the OBS repository to get the latest darktable build
  • the nightly has been updated to use a new libjxl that is part of the same graphics repo
  • as I’m only using the darktable repo, my setup cannot ‘reach’ the new libjxl
  • I have to wait to get the new libjxl in my ‘default’ repo

If I want to add the graphic repo I new to add it manually as @OrsoBruno is suggesting but probably this will update also lot of other applications and not sure this is what I want now :slight_smile:

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I do not know what is “the same graphics repo” you are talking about, but to repeat - darktable project you are using does not use graphics project at all. It builds against openSUSE:Factory. graphics is yet another development project used to prepare packages for Factory. The flow is (in case of libjxl) graphics → openSUSE:Factory → Tumbleweed. So, directly using graphics will result in using even newer and less tested packages.

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thanks @arvidjaar
To give the complete picture I followed the instructions I’ve got from darktable website’s install page.
I followed the darktable master page, then opensuse tumbleweed and last:

zypper addrepo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:darktable:master/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/graphics:darktable:master.repo
zypper refresh
zypper install darktable

I think I’ll wait couple of days to get the new libjxl to avoid messing up the current setup.

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libjxl0_11 is available in the OSS repo (if you don’t find it just wait for your local mirror to catch up).

LT-B:~ # zypper se -s libjxl
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

S  | Name                 | Type    | Version    | Arch   | Repository
---+----------------------+---------+------------+--------+----------------------
   | libjxl-devel         | package | 0.11.0-1.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS)
   | libjxl-tools         | package | 0.11.0-1.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS)
i  | libjxl0_10           | package | 0.10.3-2.1 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
   | libjxl0_11           | package | 0.11.0-1.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS)
   | libjxl0_11-32bit     | package | 0.11.0-1.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS)
   | libjxl0_11-x86-64-v3 | package | 0.11.0-1.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS)
LT-B:~ #
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Thanks @OrsoBruno now I can see it :slight_smile: everything is going well as usual. Many thanks for the explanations.