I just got the opprtunity to use a very nice LG FLATRON W2252TQ monitor but when I plug it in, i get wrong graphics. It is not listed in Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor and I also get the message that ‘The configuration is Framebuffer based and your system does not support changes for resolution and/or color settings.’ when opening this module.
Some useful information to anyone who knows about that stuff::shame:
> I just got the opprtunity to use a very nice LG FLATRON W2252TQ monitor
> but when I plug it in, i get wrong graphics. It is not listed in
> Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor and I also get the message
> that ‘The configuration is -Framebuffer- based and your system does not
> support changes for resolution and/or color settings.’ when opening this
> module.
Check what driver is xorg using. If you are using an Intel integrated card,
I think it should be using “intel” or “i810”. In konsole, just run:
cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
And tell us what it said.
> Some useful information to anyone who knows about that stuff::shame:
>
> OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-0.9-default x86_64
> System: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64)
This version (10.2) is not getting security patches anymore (is
unmaintained). You should think upgrading.
Should I upgrade before installing the new monitor? I really have no time and it also took me a long time to configure the pc to work as it does now… It has only a few small problems. I’m afraid that an upgrade will take a lot of time to reconfigure everything (all the programms i’m using everyday etc). But if I must…
Your installation is using a generic video driver. To allow greater resolutions, 3D, etc., you have to install the correct driver for your video card, intel. This should have been done automatically during installation, as the intel drivers are opensurce and so are included in the installation DVD.
You may want to try the DVD in repair mode to redetect only the video. Don’t go reinstalling everything.
You should, at least to 11.0/KDE3.5.9/10 which in very stable IMO. 11.1 with the latest updates seems good now, but gave me a lot of problems when it came out. About KDE4, ATM I’d consider only version 4.2.3. It’s mostly usable. But is question of stability KDE3.5 is still way ahead.
Don’t upgrade, make a clean reinstall (except maybe /home). It will give you a better kernel, with improved hardware support,
You can save your home directory (specially the hidden files) so that most configurations and application settings will work as before. Better still if your /home is in a different partition than / (root), in that case you only set it as /home in the new install without formatting it.
> Thank you very very much.
> This is what I get:
>
> anastis@heuy:~> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
> Driver “kbd”
> Driver “mouse”
> Driver “fbdev”
>
> Is this useful?
Yes. Well, that tell us your video card is not being recognized by Sax2 /
Xorg and it defaults to VESA driver which may not delivery the best modes
for your display.
But I am not sure about the steps to change that O:-)
Maybe you can first try this (if you are not afraid of the console). These
steps involves going to init 3 (no graphical environment at all), force
Sax2 to redetect the adapter and then going back to init 5 (kde).
Going init 3 -> Press (at the same time) Ctrl + Alt + F1
Login as root -> Type “su” and your root’s password
Reinit Sax2 -> Type “sax2 -r” to allow sax2 to rebuild its database
Going back to init 5 -> Press (at the same time) Ctrl + Alt + F7
Then go to “Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor” and look for any
change.
If it remains the same (only Framebuffer option) just try again with steps
1-4, but this time change step 3 to:
“sax2 -r -m 0=intel” to force sax2 using “intel” driver
or
“sax2 -r -m 0=i810” to force sax2 using “i810” driver
In openSUSE 10.2 I don’t remember which of these ones (i810 or intel) is
available for your card.
> Should I upgrade before installing the new monitor? I really have no
> time and it also took me a long time to configure the pc to work as it
> does now… It has only a few small problems. I’m afraid that an upgrade
> will take a lot of time to reconfigure everything (all the programms i’m
> using everyday etc). But if I must…
Well, upgrading is not a “must” but a “should”
With upgrading you will get two direct benefits:
Your video card and monitor will be properly detected (almost sure)
You will get security patches
I agree upgrading can be time consuming and may have some backdraws. But
just think about it.
Camaleón adjusted his/her AFDB on Monday 11 May 2009 09:01 to write:
Sorry to butt in but:
> Maybe you can first try this (if you are not afraid of the console). These
> steps involves going to init 3 (no graphical environment at all), force
> Sax2 to redetect the adapter and then going back to init 5 (kde).
>
> 1. Going init 3 -> Press (at the same time) Ctrl + Alt + F1
> 2. Login as root -> Type “su” and your root’s password
Type:
init 3
> 3. Reinit Sax2 -> Type “sax2 -r” to allow sax2 to rebuild its database
> 4. Going back to init 5 -> Press (at the same time) Ctrl + Alt + F7
>
Type:
init 5
just dropping to a terminal with the Ctrl+Alt+F1 does not put you in
runlevel 3, you will still be in 5 and X will still be running on vt7
> Then go to “Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor” and look for any
> change.
>
> If it remains the same (only Framebuffer option) just try again with steps
> 1-4, but this time change step 3 to:
>
> “sax2 -r -m 0=intel” to force sax2 using “intel” driver
>
> or
>
> “sax2 -r -m 0=i810” to force sax2 using “i810” driver
>
> In openSUSE 10.2 I don’t remember which of these ones (i810 or intel) is
> available for your card.
>
>> Should I upgrade before installing the new monitor? I really have no
>> time and it also took me a long time to configure the pc to work as it
>> does now… It has only a few small problems. I’m afraid that an upgrade
>> will take a lot of time to reconfigure everything (all the programms i’m
>> using everyday etc). But if I must…
>
> Well, upgrading is not a “must” but a “should”
>
> With upgrading you will get two direct benefits:
>
> 1) Your video card and monitor will be properly detected (almost sure)
> 2) You will get security patches
>
> I agree upgrading can be time consuming and may have some backdraws. But
> just think about it.
>
> Greetings,
>
Thanks everybody. It seems that what Camaleon suggested actually worked (with i810). I did it and now I’m allowed to change the resolution, i.e. I don’t get the ‘The configuration is Framebuffer based…’ message anymore. Although this model (FLATRON W2252TQ) is not in the list in Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor, I chose -->LCD as monitor vendor with the correct resolution (1680x1050@60Hz) and the graphics seem ok. Small problem, I cannot choose the correct diagonal (my option are 21.3 and then 22.2, whereas the monitor is 22) and colors number (i get 16.7 Mio as the only option, whereas the monitor is 16.2 Mio) so I get two small black areas on both sides of the screen, but still much better than before.
anastasisg adjusted his/her AFDB on Monday 11 May 2009 15:16 to write:
>
> Thanks everybody. It seems that what Camaleon suggested actually worked
> (with i810). I did it and now I’m allowed to change the resolution, i.e.
> I don’t get the ‘The configuration is Framebuffer based…’ message
> anymore. Although this model (FLATRON W2252TQ) is not in the list in
> Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor, I chose -->LCD as monitor
> vendor with the correct resolution (1680x1050@60Hz) and the graphics
> seem ok. Small problem, I cannot choose the correct diagonal (my option
> are 21.3 and then 22.2, whereas the monitor is 22) and colors number (i
> get 16.7 Mio as the only option, whereas the monitor is 16.2 Mio) so I
> get two small black areas on both sides of the screen, but still much
> better than before.
>
> Thank you all very much for the valuable help.
>
>
Have you got the windows driver disk for that monitor?
or can you d/load from the site?
you can load the windows drivers ( which is only a text file with setting in
) on the monitor selection screen there should be a but to load from disk
IIRC.
> Thanks everybody. It seems that what Camaleon suggested actually worked
> (with i810). I did it and now I’m allowed to change the resolution, i.e.
> I don’t get the ‘The configuration is Framebuffer based…’ message
> anymore. Although this model (FLATRON W2252TQ) is not in the list in
> Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor, I chose -->LCD as monitor
> vendor with the correct resolution (1680x1050@60Hz) and the graphics
> seem ok.
Glad it worked
There were missing steps, as Mark pointed.
> Small problem, I cannot choose the correct diagonal (my option
> are 21.3 and then 22.2, whereas the monitor is 22) and colors number (i
> get 16.7 Mio as the only option, whereas the monitor is 16.2 Mio) so I
> get two small black areas on both sides of the screen, but still much
> better than before.
Yes I do have the CD, and this button is there indeed, but when I load it I get the message: ‘Could not read from CD or disk. This may point to a dammaged medium or incorrectly formatted information files’. Apparently it’s the second case because the CD works on windows. Shouldn’t I be looking for the linux drivers anyway?
But by reviewing the /var/log/Xorg.0.log I can see the actual size of my
screen (and the right one) is “automagically” set at “376 301”:
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep Size
(II) intel(0): clock: 108.0 MHz Image Size: 376 x 301 mm
So it seems xorg server does its own way, but you can try to manually set
this value:
DisplaySize 473 296
and see what happens. If nothing changes, just back to the old values and
wait for your upgrade time
Note: before making any change in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, remember to make a
backup for the original file so you can restore the original values at any
time.
Note2: take a look at bugzilla. As you are using an old version of openSUSE,
maybe you can find any bug that was reported years ago about “i810”
driver :-?
Thanks very much again. Sadly, none of the above worked this time (but it’s alright:))
I think that the next step would be to find a way to load the monitor drivers, instead of using the -->LCD (1680x1050@60Hz) option in Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor
> Thanks very much again. Sadly, none of the above worked this time (but
> it’s alright:))
Oh, pity
> I think that the next step would be to find a way to load the monitor
> drivers, instead of using the -->LCD (1680x1050@60Hz) option in
> Yast->Hardware->Graphics Card and Monitor
Well, I think Sax2 needs to read an “.inf” file so the first you have to
check is for this kind of file on the CD or floppy disk.
Not all manufacturers give individual .inf files, some just pack them into
an .exe so the user has to perform an install. And I guess not all “.inf”
files are valid for Sax2 as they need to be well-formatted
(standard-based).
I have the windows cd, and since linux can’t read from it, i found the .inf file in the cd and burned a new cd containing only the file.
still linux can’t read it and returns the message :‘Could not read from CD or disk. This may point to a dammaged medium or incorrectly formatted information files’…:\
anastasisg adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 15 May 2009 11:46 to write:
>
> I have the windows cd, and since linux can’t read from it, i found the
> .inf file in the cd and burned a new cd containing only the file.
> still linux can’t read it and returns the message :‘Could not read from
> CD or disk. This may point to a dammaged medium or incorrectly formatted
> information files’…:
>
>
can you not just copy the .inf file to your ~ and point sax there?
Sorry for delay I was called away for a couple of days.
> I have the windows cd, and since linux can’t read from it, i found the
> .inf file in the cd and burned a new cd containing only the file.
> still linux can’t read it and returns the message :‘Could not read from
> CD or disk. This may point to a dammaged medium or incorrectly formatted
> information files’…:\
Be sure the “.inf” file is about the display profile and not another one.
Can you copy/paste the content to any online service (such Pastebin) so we
can take a look?
OTOH, I dont’t think all “.inf” files are recognized by Sax2. Just read the
message you are getting:
“(…) incorrectly formatted information files’” is quite suspicious.
Anyway, if you are using the analog connector (VGA), you can try to make the
display “auto” adjusts the screen (there should be a button for doing
this).
> you mean the buttons on the monitor? I tried, it didn’t work.
Ouch!
> ‘pastebin - w2252.inf - post number 1428486’
> (http://pastebin.ca/1428486)
> this is the link to the file, thank you so much for helping!
Well, it seems a correct .inf file, at least for windows ;-).
If Sax2 cannot load when you put the file into a cd/dvd or floppy disk
(remember to copy the inf file directly in the root “/” of the media, not
subfolder) should be due to a bad format or definition, not all .inf files
are valid for Sax2.
A quick remainder: be sure that you have chosen an aspect ratio of 16:10.
Try with a generic LCD / 22.2 (diagonal) / 16:10 (aspect ratio).
I almost sure your problem will go away with a newer release because IIRC,
driver “i810” is no longer under development, so maybe you are facing just
a driver issue here :-?
