Leap 15.6: cannot run cockpit

Er…

Well, I do actually use some Flatpaks (where needed — I don’t have a general problem with like some others…) — but for a system-integrated system-tool? That should be covered by system, i.e. distribution. Otherwise I could run almost everything by Flatpak than as distribution repository releases… Or is this the new way (like some distributions try to show)?

Well, all I can really say is - it was 2-3 mouse-clicks to install it and I was using it immediately. Sometimes installing | using Flatpaks is just less of a hassle. And if you contemplate you are only going to test the app, it’s also 1-2 clicks to un-install it and its dependencies.

In another thread (some time ago) we were discussing Cockpit (for 15.6), and an openSUSE Administrator recommended installing the Flatpak version, to avoid potential complications. Click-and-go, as some might say :+1:

More info … when you fire up the Cockpit Flatpak, you will be in “user level” mode. Simply click the “Admin mode” and provide credentials, and it will switch to Admin mode.


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@C7NhtpnK If you running Aeon or Kalpa, then yes Flatpaks are a thing :wink:

I use the flatpak version here since I have one application on one host and connect to multiple machines, no need to install anything on a remote host. You can do it with the rpm packages and install cockpit-bridge on the remote if want to do it that way…

I now actually tried Flatpak. Yes, that one DOES work.

I will stay with this until following is clearified:

I don’t dare touching too much… Sorry, but yes.

I would rather more like:

But that’s just the way it is. So, Flatpak for at least trying Cockpit on a first view. I won’t upgrade to Leap 16.0 early, but rather lately I guess. For me, this major change is too “bleeding”…

But I kind of would like to give Xfce Wayland a try. It is said to be built in in 16.0 (and should be possible somehow in 15.6).

And for the last so far, does anyone run myrlyn on 15.6? (Or do you all use 16.0 ß or RC?)… I would try some of the upcoming things first on 15.6 before upgrading (and having no alternative any more!).

Thank you for all contributions around!

No Myrlyn on 15.6 - pretty sure it’s not available (although, it might be in some special repo - I’ve had no desire to investigate).

I’m running Leap 16 RC in a VirtualBox … so Myrlyn is there.

I’m not doing any serious work in 16 (VM). And I’ll probably wait for one or two minor releases, before I commit it to a bare metal (non VM) installation. I read this sentence in another post in the forums: “Leap 15.6 will keep getting updates
until 30th April 2026.”. … so, no rush for me :+1:

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There is a link on the Myrlyn homepage for this:

https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/shundhammer:/myrlyn-git/openSUSE_Leap_15.6_Update_standard/x86_64/

Or you can get it from openSUSE Software; open “unsupported distributions” where SUSE:SLE-15:GA is hiding. That’s the updates repo for SLE-15 / Leap 15 which you need in this case.

Or you can build it from source, of course.

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For personally me, upgrading from 15.6 to 16.0 looks like a huge step — where obstacles could be possible.

Sadly I don’t run any VMs so I could safely test. I just have a single system — being stable, working and responsive — and I need it stable, working and responsive!

Have installed it and it DOES work nice and fine. Thank you for this piece of software!



However…

I’ve tried Cockpit by Flatpak (as mentioned above) but I cannot find all the nice and important thins I could do with YaST. Do I have to run these by CLI in the future? — Or are settings like them not needed any more in the future once a system has been installed properly?

As you do not specify what you are missing, it is difficult for others to comment in them.


System logs → Cockpit
Scanner → DE tools, scanner driver package
Partitioner → Cockpit
Date/Time → DE tools
User management → Cockpit
Audio → not needed anymore (rest via DE tools), already removed long time ago in TW/Slowroll
Sysconfig → Texteditor

If you do a basic search, you will find a thread in open Chat which exactly covers this topics (alternatives for YaST modules).

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What is that?

Desktop Environment

Oh, really? Would be nice, somehow…

Thank you!

Yes, I actually had the guess for “Desktop Environment” — but I haven’t thought that it’s all covered by that… Is this actually the “new” way? Haven’t noticed. Sorry.

Maybe this one Alternative and corresponding configuration tools to YaST modules ?

Great! Nice!

Sorry for the inconvenience!

But it seems a bit of huge readjustment to cover system config when upgrading from 15.6 to 16.0…

Any further comments? Appreciated! As I am in some fear of upgrading from 15.6 to 16.0. I am really afraid. … Let’s see what will happen after Oct 15th when masses upgrade. More support requests by people asking as dumb and humble like me?

What is the actual question? The topic is marked as solved…

The actual topic: yes. — But the surrounding discussion…! But maybe better open a new topic. OK, sorry.