I want the latest version of Firefox for 11.2 so I can use the Amazon Cloud Reader. I see the package out there but can figure the right URL to add as a repo to Yast.
Firefox 8 appears to be here:
Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64
But what URL do I add?
Hi
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ Mozilla
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That seemed to add the repo.
Now I can install something called “Firefox 8.0 Upstream branding”
When I do it asks me if I wan to deinstall FF 3 and I say Yes.
However after the install my browser still remains at FF3, no sign of FF8 ?!
try this as su -
zypper dup -r Mozilla
On 11/08/2011 07:46 PM, jbailo wrote:
> the latest version of Firefox for 11.2
11.2 has past its end of life…
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And I fully intend to upgrade to 12.1 when released!!
That worked like a charm!!
Now I can read my Kindle books on my Linux desktop!!
Happy to help
On 11/08/2011 08:36 PM, jbailo wrote:
>
> And I fully intend to upgrade to 12.1 when released!!
you can’t “upgrade” from 11.2 to 12.1, see http://tinyurl.com/35p966c
and http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv the only two supported paths to upgrade
that i am aware of…both, require upgrading from 11.4
so you will need to save off all data/settings, and do a fresh format
and install of 12.1, and then join in the data/settings as needed…
alternately, you can keep 11.2 going by joining Project Evergreen…
well, you can ‘try’ to “upgrade” and hope it goes smooth…but, my
experience is that since an “upgrade” does not remove everything in the
system there will invariably be something laying around in the corners
sharing space with the new system…and, very often strange little
problems pop up when the two bump into each other…
personally, i always do a format, rebuild, and date reintroduction…and
somehow i miss having lots of the strange kinds of problems reported and
seen here every day by folks who “upgrade”…
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On 2011-11-09 16:53, DenverD wrote:
> he only two supported paths to upgrade that i am aware of…both, require
> upgrading from 11.4
No, the DVD upgrade method is supported from any supported openSUSE
version, which now would be 11.3 and 11.4; 11.2 will also work to 11.4, it
was supported.
Zypper dup supported jumps are only to the next version.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 11/09/2011 06:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> the DVD upgrade method is supported
where is that method documented in the docs or wiki…
i ask because i’d like to add the step-by-step to my list of supported
and recommended upgrade paths…
how many version jumps are supported?
can one use that method to go from 11.2 to 12.1?
how about from 11.1 + Evergreen to 12.1?
can it go from 11.0 booting with a Ubuntu grub and with a 3.1 kernel and
KDE4.7 to 12.1 and Gnome3?
etc etc etc…
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
On 2011-11-09 20:06, DenverD wrote:
> On 11/09/2011 06:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> the DVD upgrade method is supported
>
> where is that method documented in the docs or wiki…
DD gave you the links.
> i ask because i’d like to add the step-by-step to my list of supported and
> recommended upgrade paths…
>
> how many version jumps are supported?
DVD: from a supported version to another supported version.
Zypper dup: from a currently supported version to the next.
> can one use that method to go from 11.2 to 12.1?
As 11.2 is not supported, no. When 11.2 was supported, you could upgrade to
11.4 (DVD method).
> how about from 11.1 + Evergreen to 12.1?
Not supported, AFAIK. Might work. Ask in the evergreen mail list.
> can it go from 11.0 booting with a Ubuntu grub and with a 3.1 kernel and
> KDE4.7 to 12.1 and Gnome3?
NO! Certainly not supported, and it will lead to disaster AFAIK.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 11/09/2011 08:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> > where is that method documented in the docs or wiki…
> DD gave you the links.
>
no, i gave those two links as the only two methods i know which are
supported…
and, neither are what i think you are discussing which is some “DVD way”
to upgrade from 11.2 to 12.1…
but as i said earlier: there is no supported “upgrade” path from 11.2 to
12.1 (without intervening stops at 11.3 and 11.4)
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
On 2011-11-10 13:06, DenverD wrote:
> On 11/09/2011 08:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> > where is that method documented in the docs or wiki…
>> DD gave you the links.
>>
>
> no, i gave those two links as the only two methods i know which are
> supported…
Oops, sorry, I thought I was answering somebody else. O:-)
> and, neither are what i think you are discussing which is some “DVD way” to
> upgrade from 11.2 to 12.1…
“The DVD way” is documented in the book, but not fully. That’s why I want
to write a wiki page on it.
It consists of booting from the DVD and choosing upgrade instead of install.
> but as i said earlier: there is no supported “upgrade” path from 11.2 to
> 12.1 (without intervening stops at 11.3 and 11.4)
Yes, right. Almost. You can do 11.2 -> 11.4 in one jump, that was supported
at the time, with the DVD. That is, without stopping on 11.3. That’s what I
did, actually. Then you can do a second jump to 11.4.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 11/10/2011 04:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> You can do 11.2 -> 11.4 in one jump, that was supported
> at the time, with the DVD. That is, without stopping on 11.3.
i believe you when you say you have done it…and, i believe you may
have heard/read the DVD upgrade method developers say or write that…
but, i didn’t hear it said and i can’t find where it is written in any
user documentation that jumping a version is or ever has been supported…
so, if 11.2 to 11.4 was supported, is 11.3 to 12.1 supported? and, if so
will you write the bug to get ‘them’ to change “the book”?
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:24:27 +0530, DenverD
<DenverD@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> On 11/10/2011 04:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> You can do 11.2 → 11.4 in one jump, that was supported
>> at the time, with the DVD. That is, without stopping on 11.3.
>
> i believe you when you say you have done it…and, i believe you may
> have heard/read the DVD upgrade method developers say or write that…
>
> but, i didn’t hear it said and i can’t find where it is written in any
> user documentation that jumping a version is or ever has been supported…
>
> so, if 11.2 to 11.4 was supported, is 11.3 to 12.1 supported? and, if so
> will you write the bug to get ‘them’ to change “the book”?
>
i didn’t see or hear that either. moreover, from whatever documentation i
read, and from experience reports on forums & mailing lists, i get very
clearly the impression that upgrading is always an experiment – one that
i don’t want to make.
it happens often enough that i don’t know why things are happening, or not
happening, and to have more unknown variables lying around, i.e., possible
left-over packages, doesn’t help. doesn’t take that long to install the
main applications over again, and at least i know i’m having a clean
starting point. leaves me more time to mess it up myself, and that’s much
more fun.
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phani.
On 2011-11-10 18:54, DenverD wrote:
> On 11/10/2011 04:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> You can do 11.2 → 11.4 in one jump, that was supported
>> at the time, with the DVD. That is, without stopping on 11.3.
>
> i believe you when you say you have done it…and, i believe you may have
> heard/read the DVD upgrade method developers say or write that…
>
> but, i didn’t hear it said and i can’t find where it is written in any user
> documentation that jumping a version is or ever has been supported…
It is, for the traditional or DVD method. Not for zypper dup.
> so, if 11.2 to 11.4 was supported, is 11.3 to 12.1 supported? and, if so
> will you write the bug to get ‘them’ to change “the book”?
Yep. it is supported. But as I don’t have to make that jump, I can’t write
bugs on it 
But probably I have reported bugs like that (yep: at least 647333, 693230,
693338)
I know it is supported, but I have no idea where this is documented, if it
is. I have been told that by people from Novell in the mail list over the
years, so finding an email where it says that is pretty difficult.
I remember one conversation when I thought that the zypper dup supported a
jump of two versions, and they said “no”. Probably in that conversation it
was acknowledged that with the DVD method it was. Ah, no, it was not me who
asked, but a Novell employee:
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 11:00:07 +0100
From: Stephan Kulow <>
To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] “zypper dup” from 11.2 to 11.4?
Am Mittwoch, 8. Dezember 2010 schrieb Karl Eichwalder:
> In the past, we recommended to use the dup feature to upgrade from 11.2
> to 11.3. I’m wondering whether it will be supported to upgrade directly
> from 11.2 to 11.4 and thus skipping one version (11.3)?
>
> If yes, I’ll adjust the manual accordingly.
It will not be supported - even if it may work.
Greetings, Stephan
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Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 11/10/2011 09:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 8. Dezember 2010 schrieb Karl Eichwalder:
>> In the past, we recommended to use the dup feature to upgrade from 11.2
>> to 11.3. I’m wondering whether it will be supported to upgrade directly
>> from 11.2 to 11.4 and thus skipping one version (11.3)?
>>
>> If yes, I’ll adjust the manual accordingly.
> It will not be supported - even if it may work.
>
> Greetings, Stephan
i read that to mean there is no supported upgrade path outside of
stepping from one fully patched version to the next one, like 11.4 to
12.1, and not 11.2 or 11.3 to 12.1–which is what i have been saying all
along. (and what every document i can find also says.)
you may discuss what may work all you wish, but i wish to stick to
recommending supported paths, and ask you to always note that your
“DVD method” of (for example 11.3 to 12.1) is unsupported…
fair enough?
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
On 2011-11-10 22:12, DenverD wrote:
> On 11/10/2011 09:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> i read that to mean there is no supported upgrade path outside of
> stepping from one fully patched version to the next one, like 11.4 to 12.1,
> and not 11.2 or 11.3 to 12.1–which is what i have been saying all along.
> (and what every document i can find also says.)
Yes, talking of the “zypper dup” upgrade method.
> you may discuss what may work all you wish, but i wish to stick to
> recommending supported paths, and ask you to always note that your “DVD
> method” of (for example 11.3 to 12.1) is unsupported…
No, that is not true. The DVD upgrade method is supported from any
supported version to another supported version. That’s the definition.
I’ve pointed you to bugzillas in which I do such a two version upgrade, and
they are not closed as RESOLVED/INVALID, which is what Kulow says they will
do on unsupported upgrades automatically.
I’m having a glance at the 9.3 admin guide, in paper. The entire chapter 4
is dedicated to upgrades, and one of the things it does is document all the
changes in previous versions, starting with 8.1 to 8.2, 8.2 to 9.0, etc.
All of them… so they assumed that people were going to do upgrade
directly to 9.3 (what I had bought) from any of those listed versions. It
does not say “don’t do it!”, which I assume they would say directly if you
were not intended to do it.
Before doing an upgrade that was the chapter we read to know what hurdles
we would find in the road.
It was a thick book. I miss it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 11/10/2011 11:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> No, that is not true. The DVD upgrade method is supported from any
> supported version to another supported version. That’s the definition.
so, once 12.1 is released and until Jan 12, 2010 when openSUSE 11.3 goes
unsupported, the community has on the street and supported these three
versions:
11.3
11.4
12.1
so, i ask again: please provide the URL the current ‘book’ or wiki
documentation which says an upgrade from 11.3 to 12.1 is supported,
thanks…
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DD
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