For many years, ever since I first started with opensuse and KDE, ksnapshot has been my favourite app. It just does what I want, brilliantly. Or at least it DID. Now, since 13.1/KDE4.11 it is snafu’ed up something horrible.
In particular, it still launches nicely from the printscrn key, and the first ‘select region’ is fine but try ‘take a new snapshot’ fails, I am unable to select the region I require, with a region apparently pre-selected. Very annoying.
Works fine here. (KDE 4.12.2 now, but it worked with 4.11 as well)
Does it work when you disable Desktop Effects? (press Shift+Alt+F2)
Or does setting the delay time to 1 or 2 seconds help?
There was a “bug” in that it could capture it’s own semi-transparent window with desktop effects, because the window didn’t disappear immediately but faded out by the effects. This got fixed recently though.
Also, if an area is already pre-selected (that isn’t the case here though), you should be able to change the selection by clicking and dragging the handles at the sides and corners of the selection.
Thanks Wolfi, adding a delay does help, and yes I can use the handles. But it is just not the same 
Disabling desktop effects, in particular the “Fade” effect (or “Glide” as well if it is activated), should help as well then.
So try to just turn off that one or two effects in Configure Desktop (KDE’s systemsettings)->Desktop Effects->All Effects.
As I said already, this has been fixed recently in KDE 4.12.2:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279615
So you might upgrade your KDE packages to the ones from the KDE:Release:412 repo:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repositories#Upstream_release_aka._KR412_.28KDE_SC_4.12.29
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:46:02 GMT
wolfi323 <wolfi323@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> wakou;2626458 Wrote:
> > Thanks Wolfi, adding a delay does help, and yes I can use the
> > handles. But it is just not the same
> Disabling desktop effects, in particular the “Fade” effect, should
> help as well then.
> So try to just turn off that one effect in Configure Desktop (KDE’s
> systemsettings)->Desktop Effects->All Effects.
>
> As I said already, this has been fixed recently in KDE 4.12.2:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279615
>
> So you might upgrade your KDE packages to the ones from the
> KDE:Release:412 repo:
> http://tinyurl.com/n92x49l
>
>
I’ve just tried this - I don’t have any desktop effects on - and found
that without the delay, even-numbered snapshots carried a blank, grey
ghost of the ksnapshot dialogue that appeared in the saved image. I.e.,
the first shot was OK, as were 2nd and 4th repeats but not 1st and 3rd.
By adding a delay of one second, the ghost had time to quit the scene
before ksnapshot pinged into action. I’ve never had this trouble with
the application before but I’m not a frequent user.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.12.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Kernel: 3.11.10; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Hm, completely disabling desktop effects should prevent this, as the ksnapshot window should disappear immediately then.
I don’t have that problem (also not in the form that you describe, I just tried a few times in a row) any more at all since updating to KDE 4.12.2, even with desktop effects and the fade effect enabled, so I’d say the fix apparently works.
On 02/22/2014 04:36 AM, wolfi323 pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> wakou;2626437 Wrote:
>> For many years, ever since I first started with opensuse and KDE,
>> ksnapshot has been my favourite app. It just does what I want,
>> brilliantly. Or at least it DID. Now, since 13.1/KDE4.11 it is snafu’ed
>> up something horrible.
>>
>> In particular, it still launches nicely from the printscrn key, and the
>> first ‘select region’ is fine but try ‘take a new snapshot’ fails, I am
>> unable to select the region I require, with a region apparently
>> pre-selected. Very annoying.
> Works fine here. (KDE 4.12.2 now, but it worked with 4.11 as well)
>
> Does it work when you disable Desktop Effects? (press Shift+Alt+F2)
Should be (Shift+Alt+F12) not F2.
Ken
Correct.
I wonder where the missing ‘1’ went to? The editor must have eaten it…
@ Ken… Sh-Alt-F2 is correct, not F12, at least on my default KDE.
http://paste.opensuse.org/68417715
I have tried with effects on and off, second and subsequent snapshots, the area selected is carried over from the last, and I have to move it and drag by handles. I have asked YAST to do unconditional update, here is my zypper lr
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
---+------------------------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+--------
1 | Emulators | Emulators (openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | No
2 | KDE_Extra | Additional packages maintained by the KDE team (KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | Yes
3 | KDE_Release_412 | KDE SC 4.12 Core packages (openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | No
4 | KDE_Unstable_Extra | Unstable KDE Applications (KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | Yes
5 | download.nvidia.com-opensuse | nVidia Graphics Drivers | Yes | Yes
6 | download.opensuse.org-Extra | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra | Yes | Yes
7 | download.opensuse.org-Wine | openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds | Yes | Yes
8 | download.opensuse.org-games | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes
9 | ftp.gwdg.de-suse | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes
10 | home:ecsos | home:ecsos | Yes | Yes
11 | openSUSE:13.1 | openSUSE:13.1 | Yes | Yes
12 | pipe | pipe | Yes | Yes
13 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
14 | repo-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
15 | repo-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update | Yes | Yes
16 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
The default actually is Shift+Alt+F12, but this can be changed of course.
I have tried with effects on and off, second and subsequent snapshots, the area selected is carried over from the last, and I have to move it and drag by handles. I have asked YAST to do unconditional update, here is my zypper lr
But you wrote that setting the delay helps.
So it doesn’t help with the pre-selected area, right? I wouldn’t expect it, as this is something completely different to that bug.
Actually this seems to be by design. When you run ksnapshot, nothing is pre-selected. If you make a selection, this is pre-selected when you click on “New Screenshot”. Or are you experiencing anything different?
You can remove the selection by clicking the right mouse button.
If you think that this behaviour is wrong, you should report a bug at http://bugs.kde.org/.
Your repos look ok, although I have no idea what “pipe” could be.
That’s why you should always use “zypper lr -d” when posting your repo list.
Thanks Wolfi… I KNEW there was a switch for detailed output from zypper… I tried -v and -vv and tried a quick scan of the man page… I had forgotten lr -d.
The ‘pipe’ repo contains a couple of packages cooked up by knurpht and friends to enable silverlight to run (pipelight).
In case you can spot anything not right, here is zypper lr -d:
zypper lr -d
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
---+------------------------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | Emulators | Emulators (openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators/openSUSE_13.1/ |
2 | KDE_Extra | Additional packages maintained by the KDE team (KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1/ |
3 | KDE_Release_412 | KDE SC 4.12 Core packages (openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/412/openSUSE_13.1/ |
4 | KDE_Unstable_Extra | Unstable KDE Applications (KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1/ |
5 | download.nvidia.com-opensuse | nVidia Graphics Drivers | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/13.1/ |
6 | download.opensuse.org-Extra | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_13.1/ |
7 | download.opensuse.org-Wine | openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_13.1/ |
8 | download.opensuse.org-games | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_13.1/ |
9 | ftp.gwdg.de-suse | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/openSUSE_13.1/ |
10 | home:ecsos | home:ecsos | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ecsos/openSUSE_13.1/ |
11 | openSUSE:13.1 | openSUSE:13.1 | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/13.1/standard/ |
12 | pipe | pipe | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rbos:/pipelight/openSUSE_13.1/ |
13 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/non-oss/ |
14 | repo-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ |
15 | repo-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1/ |
16 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1-non-oss/
YAST tells me that this is the version installed:
ksnapshot | Screen Capture Program | 4.12.2-97.1
No, this looks ok, as I said.
And actually, after reading your first post again, I think you are in fact seeing the same behaviour as I am (see my previous post).
I think it’s intended to be like that. You can press the right mouse button to clear the selection.
YAST tells me that this is the version installed:
ksnapshot | Screen Capture Program | 4.12.2-97.1
Right, same as here.
So you actually don’t need to set a delay, do you?
Or are you having other problems if you don’t? Like the mentioned bug?
On 02/22/2014 10:56 AM, wolfi323 pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> kensch;2626504 Wrote:
>> On 02/22/2014 04:36 AM, wolfi323 pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
>>> Works fine here. (KDE 4.12.2 now, but it worked with 4.11 as well)
>>>
>>> Does it work when you disable Desktop Effects? (press Shift+Alt+F2)
>> Should be (Shift+Alt+F12) not F2.
>>
> Correct.
>
> I wonder where the missing ‘1’ went to? The editor must have eaten it…
>
>
Sometimes the editors eat the "1"s and sometimes they eat "0"s. 
Ken
On 02/22/2014 11:26 AM, wakou pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> @ Ken… Sh-Alt-F2 is correct, not F12, at least on my default KDE.
>
> http://paste.opensuse.org/68417715
>
>
Never changed on my ‘default’.
Ken
And here’s the proof that Shift+Alt+F12 is really the default:
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/22/shortcut.png
wakou - If you can’t get ksnapshot to do what you want, perhaps give Shutter a try (ver 0.90.1 in OSS repo)
I use it frequently, do not have what seems to be ‘desktop effects’ issues you are experiencing.
I have not used ksnapshot in a long time, so cannot speak to overall functionality comparison.
… would that be Toasted "0"s ??? rotfl!
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:56:01 GMT
wolfi323 <wolfi323@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> Cloddy;2626476 Wrote:
> > I’ve just tried this - I don’t have any desktop effects on - and
> > found that without the delay, even-numbered snapshots carried a
> > blank, grey ghost of the ksnapshot dialogue that appeared in the
> > saved image. I.e., the first shot was OK, as were 2nd and 4th
> > repeats but not 1st and 3rd.
> >
> > By adding a delay of one second, the ghost had time to quit the
> > scene before ksnapshot pinged into action. I’ve never had this
> > trouble with the application before but I’m not a frequent user.
> >
> Hm, completely disabling desktop effects should prevent this, as the
> ksnapshot window should disappear immediately then.
>
> I don’t have that problem (also not in the form that you describe, I
> just tried a few times in a row) any more at all since updating to KDE
> 4.12.2, even with desktop effects and the fade effect enabled, so I’d
> say the fix apparently works.
>
Is it possible it could be anything to do with the nVidia driver I’m
using? I had to switch to that from nouveau as that was freezing solid
every day or so with a screenful of little rectangles.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.12.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Kernel: 3.11.10; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
So you still get a ghost ksnapshot window even with 4.12.2? (please check that you have version 4.12.2 of ksnapshot as well)
Have you tried to disable those effects I mentioned? (exploding windows could be another one)
You should add that to the bug report then…
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:46:01 GMT
wolfi323 <wolfi323@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> Cloddy;2626670 Wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:56:01 GMT
> > wolfi323 <wolfi323@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Cloddy;2626476 Wrote:
> > > > I’ve just tried this - I don’t have any desktop effects on - and
> > > > found that without the delay, even-numbered snapshots carried a
> > > > blank, grey ghost of the ksnapshot dialogue that appeared in the
> > > > saved image. I.e., the first shot was OK, as were 2nd and 4th
> > > > repeats but not 1st and 3rd.
> > > >
> > > > By adding a delay of one second, the ghost had time to quit the
> > > > scene before ksnapshot pinged into action. I’ve never had this
> > > > trouble with the application before but I’m not a frequent user.
> > > >
> > > Hm, completely disabling desktop effects should prevent this,
> > > as the ksnapshot window should disappear immediately then.
> > >
> > > I don’t have that problem (also not in the form that you
> > > describe, I just tried a few times in a row) any more at all
> > > since updating to KDE 4.12.2, even with desktop effects and the
> > > fade effect enabled, so I’d say the fix apparently works.
> > >
> >
> > Is it possible it could be anything to do with the nVidia driver I’m
> > using? I had to switch to that from nouveau as that was freezing
> > solid every day or so with a screenful of little rectangles.
> >
> So you still get a ghost ksnapshot window even with 4.12.2? (please
> check that you have version 4.12.2 of ksnapshot as well)
> Have you tried to disable those effects I mentioned? (exploding
> windows could be another one)
>
> You should add that to the bug report then…
>
>
All effects were disabled for a different reason and yes, I have been
using version 4.12.2 of ksnapshot. I’ll have a look at the bug report
tomorrow.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.12.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Kernel: 3.11.10; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306