On 04/02/2011 06:06 AM, gogalthorp wrote:
>
> OK the point is that here is a case it makes sense.
thank you for not being ‘insulted’…
> If you know how to
> create the KDE4 directory structure from scratch from the command line
> please post the instructions.
i think i should know how, but i’m not sure i do…i think the secret
is finding the ‘skeleton’ for the user’s hidden .kde4 directory…but,
i don’t know offhand if or where that is hidden…but, maybe this
might work [maybe: do not try this at home without a safety net!]:
-use YaST to create a testUser
-open terminal
-become root with su -
-open mc
-copy /home/[testUser]/.kde4 to /root/.kde4
not easy, granted!!
might not work, granted…but, i guess it would…
> It of course should have been created at the install and the creation of the root user.
> But something must be broke in at least some CD installs.
the most important part of this thread is the need to get THAT bug
reported…anyone know if it has it been?
it is so bad that (imHo) the image with the problem should be re-issued…
> IMO In this case it is worth the risk.
on this we need to agree to disagree…because there are
alternatives, like:
-
turn off the pesky, obtrusive YOU replacement and use YaST > Online
Update instead…sure, you have to remember to do that (or set a cron
to remind you)…but mostly only on friday or saturday, as that is
when the updates usually flow…
-
or build the structure as laid out above
AND, more importantly (from my point of view) is the potential impact
on not only the few persons seen in the thread and being answered
(who may have a known level of understanding and EASILY able to stay
out of trouble), but the dozens (hundreds, thousands ??) which will
(may?) google in and see the direction to log into the GUI as root,
and NOT know the dangers, pitfalls, less easy but more safe ways, etc
etc etc…
so, in my mind, not giving dangerous to inexperienced user advice to
even a very experienced users is the best move here… or lay in a
lot more caveats and why not to do this or that than was in this
thread’s #11 (which included zero warnings to the inexperienced
lurkers or late comers), making it therefore ill advised, as written…
> The file ownership changes seem to only occur when you log to the
> GUI as root then do things in the regular user areas.
true
> Besides they are
> easy ti fix if you know how. But you do need to know how!!!
>
> Rules are made to be broken 
all very true!
i’ve broken more than my share of rules, some VERY dangerous to
break–but, here i try not to recommend other to do so…especially
i try to not recommend known insecure and unsafe administrative
practices…even for one time, special use…because my observation
of human nature has been that if i “get away with” the “easy way”
once, i am VERY likely to try it again…and, again…and,
again…until catastrophe!
as always, ymmv.
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