Kickoff menu missing

I tried playing with a weather widget that ended up in the lower left hand corner somehow.
Tried to remove it and instead I removed the kicker / start menu.

Anyone have a clue how I get that back?

Oh, guess it would hellp…
OS: Linux 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop i686
System: openSUSE 11.3 (i586)
KDE: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) “release 3”

Thanks!

Unlock widgets
Right click panel > add widgets > Application Launcher

Move to place

Now lock widgets

AH! Thanks for the push.
The alternative that I came up with (since it’s a clean install, no mods yet) is to logon as root and just delete the users entire .KDE4 folder.

Kind of a “shotgun” approach, but the desired result was achieved…

But better to know the right way… Kickoff … Application Launcher … Lizard menu…too many alias’s… makes it tricky to know what to even search for…

Thanks!

On 01/31/2011 10:06 PM, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
>
> to logon as root and just delete the users entire .KDE4
> folder.

how did you log in as root?


DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

as a normal user open a terminal window / su, password, init 3 / root, password, startx

On 01/31/2011 11:06 PM, dth2 wrote:
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> as a normal user open a terminal window / su, password, init 3 / root,
> password, startx

what was that for dth2?


DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

what was that for dth2?

Having a good old chuckle with this one… :smiley:

On 02/01/2011 06:06 AM, caf4926 wrote:
> Having a good old chuckle with this one… :smiley:

yep, i guess “dth2” read “how do you log in as root?” rather than
what i asked SomeSuSEUser “how did you log in as root?”

which is the only reason i can figure out why “dth2” chimed in…


DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

with apologies for me swahili posting - completely mis-read and mis-understood the question!

On 02/01/2011 01:36 PM, dth2 wrote:
> swahili posting

no problem, that is what i guessed had happened…


DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

Apologies for leaving you hanging, Thanks for the PM.
I just logged off the gui as user and then logged back on gui as root and used Dolphin to navigate to my user/.kde4 directory and delete it.
Once I logged back on as user it was recreated w/ defaults and all went forward.

BTW, I eventually found that the 13Gb harddrive I’d been using for the system partition was not reliable any more. It’s +10 years old (Maxtor BEFORE Seagate …lol) so I guess I’ve gotten my money’s worth out of it. <wink>

On 02/15/2011 04:36 AM, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
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> DenverD;2284877 Wrote:
>> how did you log in as root?
>
> Apologies for leaving you hanging

no problem…

> I just logged off the gui as user and then logged back on gui as root
> and used Dolphin to navigate to my user/.kde4 directory and delete it.

that was what i was concerned about…it is the way lots of folks with
experience in other systems (and little in linux/*nix) attack the
situation, but things are a little different…you should never log
into KDE/Gnome/XFCE or any other *nix-like graphical user interface
desktop environment as root…

doing so 1) opens you up to several different security problems if you
(for example) browse the net, 2) too many too easy ways to damage your
system no matter how careful your actions (for example: well
documented cases of unintended change of ownership of ~/.ICEauthority
and ~/.Xauthority from user to root sometimes occurs), 3) and, anyway
logging into KDE/etc as root is never required to do any and all
administrative duties…

so, always log in as yourself, and “become root” by using a root
powered application (like YaST, File Manager Superuser Mode) or using
“su -”, sudo, kdesu, or gnomesu in a terminal to launch whatever tool
is needed (like Kwrite to edit a config file)…read more on all that
here:

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
http://tinyurl.com/ydbwssh
http://tinyurl.com/6ry6yd

additionally: after logging into KDE/Gnome/etc as root, if you
experience problems (for example, with uncommanded file ownership and
permissions changes) and if you can provide us with details of what
you were doing while you were logged in as root, that would help us
identify if there’s a bug that needs to be fixed…thanks for your help…

for example instead of all that time consuming log out, log in as
root, log out, log in as self you could have (and should have) just
done this:

-hold down Alt and press F2
-type kdesu dolphin
-type in your root password when asked
-do your thing in the root powered Dolphin which will soon pop up
-close that Dolphin when the root job is done…

that, you can do faster than all that logging out/in AND it is safer
for your system…

> It’s +10 years old (Maxtor) so I guess I’ve gotten my money’s worth

yep!


DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

Can’t thank you enough for your advice on this topic.
I have seen the very thing that you described happen to me in the past.
Had logged in as root and moved files from /home/path to an attached USB HDD used for archiving. Later found that many of them had been reassigned to root/root instead of Username/users.

Excellent advice and many thanks!

My feeling about deleting .kde4 is that you should do it from a terminal rather then the GUI. It is a little like changing the tires on a car while driving. So boot to a terminal (press 3 before the boot) log in as yourself. (no need to be root to do things in your home) then mv ~/.kde4 ~/kde4.old. You can later delete ~/kde4.old if the new one is ok and you don’t have any old data like email from the kmail app or other config or kde related data files. Or you can simply remove it with the rm command (type man rm at the CL for instruction)

Also to simply fix the desktop most things will be set in the files starting with plasma* in the ~/kde4/share/config removing or rename those will reset the desk top to day one.

Could someone point me to those well documented cases, please? Are there other examples?