> Camaleón wrote:
>> Use the graphical tools, then. Any recent and complete DE have (or
>> should) provide that tools.
> laptop working with complite DE very slow… guess - bought new one? bad
> idea to me for now
Then use another tools to setup the mouse and keyboard.
>> You don’t have to explain that to your son. Just get it setup and working
>> for him, that’s all. As you are the administrator of the machine, you
>> have to do that job, right?
> normally I show to him how to work and he is administrator of his laptop.
Then show him to the things are done now
>> You have to take into account that almost any other distribution does the
>> same way. Ubuntu does not have YaST neither SaX2. In openSUSE you have to
>> use now the same tools available in all other distros.
> exactly… and now openSUSE=UBUNTU and that is not a compliment
Xorg (FreeDesktop) is an open standard many linux distributions are
following. And Xorg uses HAL (on-the-fly devices setup) which will be
replaced soon by PolicyKit.
So I’d say openSUSE is on that same track, not the Ubuntu’s one but the
>> You missed the point of that bugzilla, sir
> yes I… I mean comments that I qoute in previous post
>> That bugzilla says that those tools are now removed, no more no less. And
>> it will documented under Release Notes (read comment #59 from Karl).
> Actually I understand a bit, why this was made. But imo this was made
> dirty. the key of such move I guess (because noone told about) is to
> divide users setting for a keyboard switch, and that is absolutly good
> idea. But that was made on wrong level.
> It should not depends on DE… so in terminal and all DE should work with
> users setting also. And some defalt setting for whole system as is right
> now for 11.2
You can use the hard way and setting up the devices by hand, manually
editing the files.
>> Then you should open a bugzilla for that.
> I’m want to discuss about this at general chit-chat(for now this does not
> any sence as far as I understand). i will describe my vision at sunday.
> Then depends on reaction of people I or somebody other post a feature
There is at least one feature open:
#308152: KEEP Sax2’s GUI in 11.2 Final!
>> Yes. If something is not correctly working for your setup, just open a
>> bugzilla for that. I have no problems with my mouse, keyboard or vga card
>> on RC2, they are properly detected and configured.
> that is not a sence of my postings. But I will take it to arm
Now we have no other chance
>> How are this windows managers been working with the rest of distributions
>> that do not have SaX2 at all? :-?
> actually I does not care about other distributions. I use opensuse, and I
> want to use it in future
Then, if you like to be on openSUSE, you’ll have to collaborate and make
your voice “visible” to the developers
>> openFATE is your friend
> OK. I’ll give it a try. But before discussion. Who am I to post features?
> Nobody take care about that and if people support some idea. That is a
> point to make a feature. I did not want to waste developers time at
I found one feature opened. And I’m sure another users are still thinking
the same as you. Look, another bugzilla:
Bug 483554 - RN: sax2: Remove keyboard and mouse configuration modules
>> New times, new tools
> if this tools illogical or irrational, I am abssolutely disagree
Then tell the developers about your “logical” and “rational” point of view
and try to convince them