Kernel update warning

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#1

Is there a way to be alerted when the kernel is updated. I use Ubuntu Grub and when Suse updates the kernel I am unaware. Then on next boot Suse won’t load because the previous kernel version is in Ubuntu’s menu.lst. No big deal I just load Fedora and copy the new Suse menu.lst entry into Ubuntu’s menu.lst. It just would be nice to know it’s happened and edit menu.lst entry right away.

#2

You are saying you update the kernel but don’t realize that is what you are doing. Because it’s just in the list of all the updates and there is no warning before it executes?

I don’t use the Suse Updater, but use Software Management so I can see all the updates in a list before hand. I’m not aware of any warnings being given or the possibility of it.

#3

From the KDE updater widget in the system tray you can certainly review what’s going to be affected. I always click on details, which shows me the packages it proposes to update, before I approve the action.

#4

I just get the little window saying there are updates and I click on “update” and it does it’s thing but, it does it all in the background and I don’t see what has been updated.

#5

I use Gnome

#6

Hi
I use zypper from the cli, to list/apply the updates.

If the kernel is updated, there is a message at the end saying to
reboot. This is the only time you will see a requirement to reboot in
linux, hence if you see that message the kernel has been updated, so
I’m assuming that can be your warning :wink:

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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 3:12, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.30, 0.35
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

#7

Thanks I’ll give that a try.

#8

One problem though is that once you have applied the kernel update, the modules directory is gone and you cannot load additional modules. You may think, surely I will know not to load additional modules after I have done a kernel update, but in some cases modules are autoloaded. In one case that happened to me it was the netlink module needed when you use wireshark (nee tcpdump). This failure of wireshark caused me a bit of puzzlement until I cottoned on to what had happened.

#9

Hi
Maybe it needs to be an “opt in” option to update the kernel and
associated modules that the user can select to avoid those nasties?

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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 9:25, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.04
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

#10

sounds like an idea:)

#11

I think that if it’s really the case that the GNOME interface to online update offers no option to preview what will be updated, it should be fixed to give more choice to the user. Maybe this is what some people mean when they say that GNOME has gone overboard with “simplicity”.

#12

Hi
The update icon in Gnome gives the user the ability to review updates
or you can manually run gpk-update-viewer?

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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 11:30, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.08, 0.03
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80