On 07/03/2012 03:16 PM, psaxioti wrote:
> 1. The kernel I had was always the official opensuse kernel, usually
> the desktop flavor. Right now (it just updated) I have the
> 3.4.4-2.4-desktop.
yes, there was a ‘bad’ kernel pushed out though the update repo which
caused problems for lots of folks…
> With 12.2 I experimented with kernels from the a
> repository (I think 3.1.x, 3.2.x), but with the same results.
so, what that means to me is that you are having similar problems with a
variety of kernels, from a variety of versions of openSUSE and
Ubuntu…so it is probably not a kernel fault, but something else
interacting with the kernel, or just upsetting the whole system:
so, lets go back and learn more: you wrote “many instabilities and
kernel panics” and “Usually I find the system frozen with a black
screen, or if the thing happens while working, it just freezes.”
each of those FOUR (unstable, panic, black screen & freeze) could be
caused by four very different problems
“kernel panic” is normally accompanied by flashing keyboard LEDs,
completely unresponsive to keyboard input AND tell-tale info in
/var/log/message
“kernel panic” is often cause by bad RAM: have you run memtest (seen as
“Memory Test” on every openSUSE install disk…and, it is VERY possible
that because of the way Linux uses memory a small problem which would
not upset Windows will KILL your system (linux uses ALL of the RAM and
therefore exercises sections of the RAM stick that Windows may never
ever touch)…so run memtest…not less than overnight…really, it take
a long time to test 2GB of memory…one pass does NOT do it…takes
many many passes…
“instabilities” can be cause by about a million (maybe a billion)
things…even just using the same /home from 11.3 to 11.4 to 12.1 and
12.2 AND with Ubuntu could introduce enough crud into the configs in
your /home that there is no telling what might be in there…so, try
this add a new test user, and log into that test user and do a lot of
browsing, whatever and see if you ever have a problem…(yes i know, all
of “your stuff” is not at your finger tips anymore…
“black screen” could be the result of either a video card problem or
simply a misset power savings setting…
“freeze” could be due conflicting software…
so, please show us the terminal input/output from
zypper lr -d
copy/paste the in/output back to this thread using the instructions
here: http://goo.gl/i3wnr
and any of the four could be prompted by a weak or failing power
supply, cracked motherboard, loose connection anywhere in the machine,
faulty ground, leaking capacitor(s), heat problems, etc etc etc etc etc…
> 2. I have checked, but nothing relevant in there, at least to my
> understanding.
the next time it happens look at your most accurate clock, and write
down the exact time…convert that exact local time to UTC time…and,
then look into /var/log/messages and copy paste from five minutes prior
to the freeze/panic/instability/black screen up the gap in time caused
by the delay while you rude killed the machine, and rebooted
and paste that log to paste.opensuse.org and reference the URL in your
next post to this thread…
> 3. I didn’t like the 64bit as was a mixture of 32 and 64 bit. I guess
> it has become better by now but … Also this is a pc I use for work
> also and I have some programs that I think run better under 32bit (I am
> a noob and I cannot support what I am saying, it is just a feeling. I
> can try again the 64bit architecture).
ok, i do not think moving to 64 will help…unless you do a complete
format and install without bring forward any problems which may (or
may not) exist in the configs in your /home
i’ve very happy with my 32 bit system in a 64 bit machine…
> 4. I will do some more reading hoping to find something
at this point it is kinda like looking for a needle in a haystack, in a
hurricane:
-do the RAM check
-tell us more about your hardware–like age…power supplies weaken over
time and can (WILL) cause all kinds of seemingly unrelated
problems…and age can allow dust (and chicken bones) to build up in
critical areas…or or or or
-show us the “zypper lr -d”
OH: if you boot from a live CD and just run and run and run and run, do
you ever (or never) have one (or all of) these four problems?
well… i can tell you this: i have had NONE of those problems since
(about) 2006 when i replaced my power supply and CPU grease on a machine
which is now ‘retired’…my current machine (a little ACER +nettop
bought in Feb 2011) has never shown any of those problems, not
once…so, i’m not likely to think it is either a kernel or Linux
problem…it MAY be a problem that Linux does not like your hardware,
but that is a different kettle of fish.
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