KDE Update

wakou · May 17, 2010, 3:58pm

For a long while my updater has not been working, but I have got used to small bugs and CBA to do 2 hours maintenance every day just to get things working…
Anyhoo, today I did a zypper rf, zypper lu (TONS!) and a zypper up.
Gbs of update were dl’ed and installed, I thought “that should break things nicely”, but I logged off and on and then re-booted and all was OK. Even my plasma clock started working properly which it had never done before!
Now the updater is insisting I patch thus:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p145/wakou/updater.png

But! I have

Platform Version 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3)

If I try to accept I get some conflicts…
Have I a rogue old repo?

root's password:
# | Alias              | Name                  | Enabled | Refresh | Type  
--+--------------------+-----------------------+---------+---------+-------
1 | 4.4                | 4.4                   | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
2 | 44_Community       | 44 Community          | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
3 | ftp.skynet.be-suse | Packman Repository    | No      | No      | rpm-md
4 | repo-non-oss       | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss | Yes     | Yes     | yast2 
5 | repo-oss           | openSUSE-11.2-Oss     | Yes     | Yes     | yast2 
6 | repo-update        | openSUSE-11.2-Update  | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md

I am sure all this has been covered but I have not been doing much maintaining lately and I forget very quickly!

During the zypper up, loads of updates Strigi, Nepomuk, Virtuoso, soprano etc etc, I fondly imagined that at last the horror story that is Nepomuk would start working, but no such luck…
Anyone written any guidance lately on how to get this can of worms actually to do something useful?

knurpht · May 17, 2010, 4:10pm

You should have used the “Switch system packages…” option from the software installer. Don’t know about your internet connection, but you could do that still, for both 4.4 repos you have.

wakou · May 17, 2010, 5:14pm

OK Knurpht will do…

(nailbiting wait whilst another gazillion Mb’s comes in…“Will THIS break it??”)

wakou · May 17, 2010, 6:16pm

Hmm done that, rebooted, still getting nagged to install the 4.3.5 patch

??

ijbreakey · May 18, 2010, 2:08pm

Hi,

One thing I can think of is if your repository priority isn’t set up correctly. Although I’ve had this happen before when a critical java update was going to be applied and I didn’t even have java installed. It kept trying to make me install java so it could apply the update.

Please provide the output of

zypper lr -d

wakou · May 18, 2010, 2:39pm

TY IJ, here is zypper lr -d:

stephen@home:~> zypper lr -d
# | Alias              | Name                  | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                | Service
--+--------------------+-----------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | 4.4                | 4.4                   | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.2/               |        
2 | 44_Community       | 44 Community          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ |        
3 | ftp.skynet.be-suse | Packman Repository    | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.2/                                                        |        
4 | repo-non-oss       | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/                                       |        
5 | repo-oss           | openSUSE-11.2-Oss     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                           |        
6 | repo-update        | openSUSE-11.2-Update  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/

ps it alternates between the KDE 4.3.5 update patch and a “dummy patch”, the dummy patch resolves to a “D-Bus Error”

ijbreakey · May 18, 2010, 3:49pm

Hmm. Nothing wrong with your repository setup as far as I can see. To be sure you can set your 44 and 44 community repositories to 98 to give them higher priority and then see if that helps.

Take Care,

Ian

wakou · May 18, 2010, 4:03pm

OK changed the priorities, logged out, refreshed, still telling me to patch 4.3.5

wakou · May 25, 2010, 12:53pm

Well I have started doing a daily zypper ref & zypper up, it seems that loads of updates come in on a daily basis (30 - 60 Mb per day), worse than windows (!)
I also tried to switch the update applet back-end to zypper, but it STILL nags me to patch KDE 4.3.5, even though I have KDE 4.4.3???

Still the same message:

knurpht · May 25, 2010, 1:08pm

Start the software installer and search for “kde-4”, it should show the one package the updater is trying to update.
If it’s there, try uninstalling it. Weird thing is, that this package is not in the repos you have enabled.
If it’s not there, it may be a fault in your package database. Do


su -c 'rpm --rebuilddb'

in a terminal window.

There’s another thing: the Packman repos are not enabled, not being refreshed. I suggest you turn them on.

deano_ferrari · May 25, 2010, 1:23pm

Many choose not to use the updater applet, preferring to use zypper or yast online update manually. Once you have community repos enabled, this is especially relevant.

See this thread’s advice.

Similar discussion.

wakou · May 25, 2010, 1:39pm

Thank-you Knurpht…
I did a:
#rpm --rebuilddb yesterday, no change…
You say that the package is not in my enabled repos, the applet says it is in repo-update, which is my alias for -:

stephen@home:~> zypper lr -d
# | Alias              | Name                  | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                | Service
--+--------------------+-----------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | 4.4                | 4.4                   | Yes     | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.2/               |        
2 | 44_Community       | 44 Community          | Yes     | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ |        
3 | ftp.skynet.be-suse | Packman Repository    | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.2/                                                        |        
4 | repo-non-oss       | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/                                       |        
5 | repo-oss           | openSUSE-11.2-Oss     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                           |        
**6 | repo-update        | openSUSE-11.2-Update  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/  **

I tried looking in YAST as you suggest, and nothing shows in a search for “kde-4” or “KDE-4”
One thing that struck me as odd was that even though I selected “switch system packages to the versions in this repo (4.4)” the other day and allowed it to do its updating, the option is still there in blue?
(in YAST>software mgnt>repos) Should I do it again?

Knurpht:

Start the software installer and search for “kde-4”, it should show the one package the updater is trying to update.
If it’s there, try uninstalling it. Weird thing is, that this package is not in the repos you have enabled.
If it’s not there, it may be a fault in your package database. Do
su -c 'rpm --rebuilddb'
in a terminal window.

There’s another thing: the Packman repos are not enabled, not being refreshed. I suggest you turn them on.

knurpht · May 25, 2010, 2:02pm

Please post output from:


su -c 'find / -name kde-4*'

There should not be any need to switch the packages again, if you have not switched to other repos since then

wakou · May 25, 2010, 2:11pm

err no results from that command…

wakou · May 25, 2010, 2:31pm

TY Deano, I still get tjhe same nagging to install the same mystery patch for kde4.3.5 which I no longer use when I try to:
YAST>Online update

gogalthorp · May 25, 2010, 7:14pm

Just a note you do know that 4.4 is still beta so you would expect a lot of updates.

knurpht · May 25, 2010, 7:24pm

This looks like your update to KDE4 4.3.5 has not finished 100% correctly. Accept the first option, report results here please, i.e. a screenshot of what happens if you do that.

wakou · May 29, 2010, 3:57pm

TY Knurpht, my apologies for not getting back to you, there is so much traffic on the forum that I lost my own thread, and had to dig it out in my User CP!!
In the end (as we all do ?) I gave in to the constant nagging, and allowed YAST online update to do whatever it wanted…
Seems to have cured it…
I am still mystified as to why I have to update a kde version I no longer use, I suspect you are correct in that there was some unfinished kde 4.3.5 stuff extant BEFORE I upped to kde.4.4.3
Thanks for all your help, enjoy your weekend…