Kde live usb not good recovery tool

leap 15.5 kde live usb troubles.
Intended to make usb and test to work on another PC.
my system is ACER run leap 15.2 and all worked well.
Created a live usb with leap 15.5 and kde desktop
this worked .
tested live usb on my system to see if it worked ok and all worked fine but extremely slow
shutdown and removed live usb and rebooted my system
got security breach - credentials do not match - system halted
was shocked to say the least a live usb is never supposed to mess with UEFI credentials , that defeats the purpose of being a recovery tool.
Installed leap 15.5 onto blank partition and rebuilding my system from data partitions but it real slow go.
I still have 15.2 on separate partition but trying to boot to it gives same breach. I would go back to 15.2 in a heartbeat if I fix the breach problem because:

  1. 15.5 scrollbars are too thin
  2. 15.5 mouse in apps is impossible to see
  3. Apps constantly crash kate, firefox, libraOffice, Kicad, vlc, virtualbox, dolphin, xterm, Yast, gimp
    When I say crash I mean when I choose quit or save in an app it says app exited unexpectedly, sometimes save works other times I get a trying to recover, which again sometimes works.
  4. mounted data drives are all owned by root when they were owed by user and now have to root to access
    any help appreciated

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:UEFI#Reset_SBAT_string_for_booting_to_old_shim_in_old_Leap_image

That is not what the message says.

When I want a USB based system to use for repairs, I normally use “Icewm”, which is lighter than KDE.

For your UEFI problem, I agree with @arvidjaar and the link he posted.

I am not seeing any apps crashing with 15.5. Perhaps you have a defective USB device.

As for the mounted drives – if they are using Windows file systems, the ownership depends on mount options. If they are using Linux file systems, the ownership is in the metadata on the drive and the owner is identified by uid which might not match anything in your live system.

use to use 11.2 live to fix issues until usb failed
then tried icewm but it couldn’t do more than simple fixes
then tried gecko but had no persistence
then tried 15.2 live which was great, so great someone walked off with it
Had so much success with leap 15.2 that when I needed a new usb live I went with 15.5 and was thoroughly disgusted at what happened.
15.5 is clearly 50 times slower than 15.2 run from USB and 40 times slower the 15.2 when installed.
I thought the clipboard was bad in 15.2 always randomly hi-liting stuff posting to the clipboard and auto-inserting from the clipboard into text fields or shoving notes onto the desktop, but wow 15.5 isn’t 1 or 2 sticky notes every few days it 10 to 15 an hour. hi-lites and auto insert happen even more.

I have drives for home (ext4), work (ext4), special (ext4), and shared (vfat) In home is work->work drive special->special shared->shared
I have gone in with root and changed owner and group from root to me root → users, marked owner can change,view,execute, group can also change,view,execute and go back in any look and root still has ownership.

I did look at the post made about the UEFI thing and follow the links. and that does not match my screen. Word for word is says in bold large print "Security Breach – Credentials do not match – System Halted with a small UEFI bottom right on the screen. I don’t even know if that UEFI at the bottom of screen is part of message or not.
At any rate the link was talking about shims being a key signature and I remember having to do a work around way back when I installed 15.2. I recall working for weeks just so I could install 15.2 and thought that was the most assured way to convince people to avoid opensuse. If that shim has caused all this grief this is the last time I’ll install any newer version. Opensuse has been great but shims deciding what I can and cannot do on my PC is a deal breaker.

You can disable secure-boot in your BIOS. And then shim won’t affect anything.

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Right! And I’m doing fine that way with 5 very different machines in our home LAN. For most of them I forgot when I actually had to do a fresh install. I’m doing the life upgrade on all of them since Leap 42 or a bit later. I’m definitely not seing any serious performance difference from 15.2 to 15.5 for the installed versions. I can’t tell for the life version as I didn’t need any “repair” action since 15.3.

I have never messed with secure boot in bios mainly because I help a half dozen people with their systems and they aren’t too advanced with understanding systems. I was just wanting a good live stick where I could go in and fix their systems without trashing their current OS. I can work through things but the ones I help would surely not have success.

I used the Gnome live ISO to troubleshoot my completely dead btrfs filesystem.
It’s quite good and suits me as I’m used to Gnome.
The default rescue ISO is XFCE based.

Thanks for the heads up haven’t done much with gnome or xfce but I’ll keep them in mind.

In Plasma 5.27.9 in 15.5 in Systemsettings>Appearance>Application Style there is a Fusion selection I use to get traditional scrollbar widths at least in native apps and widgets.

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Interesting…
I just recently used it to recover grub on a dual boot w11 / Tumbleweed install.
Insider version of Win11 update blew away grub and I used the live stick to just UPGRADE the currently install Tumbleweed and all turned out well.
Grub was back in the game like nothing happened.

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Thanks I’ll try that

Yes windows 10+ does two things on a regular basis one is windows factory in background intent is restore windows settings to what MS insists they should be. That quite often makes presets in apps disappear if the app is not from MS. On MS apps custom settings are reset to factory. Second is either backdoor update or front door update. Front door you know update was being done, backdoor usually returns system to single boot upon completion. They took away your right to control or skip updates.

Not entirely. We can disable wireless, pull the ethernet cable out of the socket, and put it back in when not booting Windows.

Yes but Microsoft has that covered in windows 11 and 12 by shutting down windows EULA says as a windows PC user you must have internet connection or your system may shut down until internet is restored,

You can always selectively break your system :wink:
It’s been a while since I used Windows, but IIRC there was a way to update the registry values or some such that would effectively cause updates to not function. It was reversible too. Perhaps a web search would be helpful…

Not that I would recommend this considering how many security fixes are in Microsoft’s monthly updates :see_no_evil:

I wonder how Microsoft is planning to provide internet to the far reaches of Africa, Appalachia and elsewhere where the only power is solar and battery. I guess the spelunkers’ laptops & tablets will have to use Linux. :slight_smile:

Microsoft is different in different countries. Like UK where they had to swap out internet explorer as their desktop controller and browser so they now use microsoft edge browser and file explorer as desktop management.

Yes there are many registry hacks , the bloatwear is enormous. Never understood why you want to hold every setting of every piece of software in memory and also load api shares into memory I recall working on a system years ago that 16 GB memory and 15GB of registry and api shares. After clearing out the garbage in the registry that were loading api’s memory use dropped to 0.4GB and user could do so much more.

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There is a registry hack to cancel updates in the foreground but backdoor updates are not stopped and most backdoor updates include code to restore foreground updates.

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