KDE Kiosk in Public Environment?

Hi everyone,
I am using OPENSuse (11.2 with KDE) at home since quite a while. Now i wanted to go a step further …
Our local library computers are very slow running XP … it takes almost a minute to open firefox only …
So since the office got new computers, i was thinking about deploying one there as “server”. The other four could connect at login to this machine and use its resources instead.
BUT: All that should run in a kiosk-like mode. In my research I found the kiosktool which apparently doesn’t work on KDE 4.3 and 4.4.
SO: Do you think it is OK to use KDE 4.2 instead (i read that it should work then)? How secure would that be?
Or my preferred way: Is there an alternative to the kiosktool? As far as it works, it looks very good but unfortunately the settings don’t save and apply …

Thanks for ideas …
Matthieu from Germany

No ideas? :frowning:

Do not know the kiosk tool, but this also sounds a little bit as if it is
also an application field for the linux terminal server

http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP

Do you consider that too or is it completely wrong for you.

Matthieu-DS wrote:
> No ideas? :frowning:

i have to believe that the “best way” to do this with Linux was solved
long ago in Germany…i know many local governments in Europe have
been using open source a long time to drive down costs and drive up
usability/speed…

perhaps you could find better help on a ‘sister’ forum linked from
http://forums.opensuse.org/ (scroll down and you will see several
location/language specific fora, try: http://www.linux-club.de/

no help there, come back and holler! ok?


palladium

What exactly do you want to achieve? If it’s about having /home on a server and manage users from there, I’d rather go for the NIS+NFS combo.

Does the kiosktool from the OBS not work your you?

http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:11.2/standard/kiosktool.ymp

It is especially made for kde >=4.3.1

You do not even need OBS it is in the standard 11.2 oss repository.

I am an active member of another OpenSource Community. I thought it would be better to ask here than in a localized forum because i think the “real” experts sit here rather than in a smaller one …
The KioskTool doesn’t save/apply anything one did since the newer KDE versions. I didn’t test it on anything older than OS11.2, but according to a text i read days ago, it worked with KDE 4.2. But i cannot test that …
Someone stated, that the concept would be replaced by KAuth in 4.4 … but that doesn’t make any sense to me?
LTSP is an idea, but i would like the machines to run on their own, if the server is offline. Should be better in public places i think.
I would connect the machines on startup using XDMCP so they use the resources of the server. The old machines are too slow as i described above. It would also decrease the amount of maintanence needed from 4 to one machine.

Thanks,
Matthieu

Again nothing? :frowning:
Thanks anyways,
Matthieu

It looks as if kiosktool is no longer really maintained from what I can see
in google.

Is kde for you the only option there are some similar things for gnome which
are maybe worth to look at:

“Sabayon” and “Pessulus”

Matthieu-DS wrote:
> Again nothing? :frowning:
> Thanks anyways,

i know a guy who maintains a kiosk setup for a children’s “science
museum”…touch screen guided learning exhibits…i’m not sure if he
used KDE (i think he opted for something a LOT less resource
demanding)…and, i’m not sure his experience would be helpful…oh,
and i’m sure he is not using openSUSE…but, perhaps i could ask him
to drop in here and take a look at your questions…

otherwise, i have NO ideas on how to help…

fact is i don’t even understand how using a new computer running
openSUSE/KDE as some kind of server (??) would help four over taxed
(and probably registry bound) XP machines run faster ???

maybe if you explained your plan a little more . . .


palladium

Maybe I misunderstood one thing from the very beginning:

I assumed that you will also replace the win xp on the old machines with
linux. Is that correct or was this a wrong assumption?

It is right that i am going to replace the OS on the clients. If Gnome is offering the same connect-feature as KDE i will take a look into it. KDE offers a small button on the login-screen at the bottom which says “connect to a remote machine” which i want to use.
Are there good-looking alternatives for KDE except Gnome?
A fast machine as i am using it at home is definitely faster. I connected 3 machines at home for testing and could run OpenOffice and Firefox very smoothly. And then i could finally get some larger screens 'cause the 1024-resolution is hard for average eyes on those old screens …

Thanks,
Matthieu

Ok … I have come a little further now. But one thing doesn’t quite work. I searched all around the web to find that xdmcp is also available for gnome so I can connect remotely on login. BUT the config-tool for it obviously isn’t. Has anyone an idea on how to work around this or maybe even found the tool?

Thanks in advance,
Matthieu