I don’t know how to explain this problem. Sometimes, after update, it looks like in repo are old packages but version numbers are higher than previous. It looks like there are two ‘packagers’ and one of them makes packages from older builds.
Currently it is that old build.
Look at system load plasmoid:
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9861/zrzutekranu4j.th.png](http://img713.imageshack.us/i/zrzutekranu4j.png/)
In newer version, on this pop-up view, is visible icon and also colors on plasmoid are brighter.
This is screenshot i took before today update:
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8987/zrzutekranu3p.th.png](http://img713.imageshack.us/i/zrzutekranu3p.png/)
We would need to see the result of
zypper lr -d
You know about the switcher, like this?
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Here it is:
# | Alias | Nazwa | Włączono | Odśwież | Priorytet | Typ | Adres URL | Serwer
---+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------------------------+----------+---------+-----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------
2 | GNOME:Community | GNOME:Community | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME%3a/Community/openSUSE_11.2/ |
3 | GNOME:Contrib | GNOME:Contrib | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME%3a/Contrib/openSUSE_11.2/ |
4 | GNOME:Factory | GNOME:Factory | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME%3a/Factory/openSUSE_11.2/ |
5 | Java:packages | Java:packages | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Java%3a/packages/openSUSE_11.2/ |
7 | KDE4:Factory:Community_1 | KDE4:Factory:Community | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory |
8 | KDE4:Factory:Desktop_1 | KDE4:Factory:Desktop | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Distro%3a/Factory/openSUSE_11.2 |
9 | KDE4:Factory:Playground_1 | KDE4:Factory:Playground | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory |
10 | KDE4:STABLE:Community | KDE4:STABLE:Community | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Stable |
11 | KDE4:STABLE:Desktop_1 | KDE4:STABLE:Desktop | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Distro%3a/Stable/openSUSE_11.2 |
14 | KDE:Extra | KDE:Extra | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Extra/openSUSE_11.2/ |
15 | KDE:Extra:Factory | KDE:Extra:Factory | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Extra/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory/ |
16 | KDE:Qt | KDE:Qt | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Qt/openSUSE_11.2/ |
17 | KDE:UpdatedApps | KDE:UpdatedApps | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/UpdatedApps/openSUSE_11.2 |
18 | M17N | M17N | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/M17N/openSUSE_11.2/ |
19 | NVIDIA_Repository | NVIDIA Repository | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2 |
21 | Printing | Printing | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_11.2/ |
22 | Virtualbox | Virtualbox | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/opensuse/11.2/ |
25 | X11:XGL | X11:XGL | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11%3a/XGL/openSUSE_11.2/ |
26 | X11:XOrg | X11:XOrg | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11%3a/XOrg/openSUSE_11.2/ |
27 | devel:languages:perl | devel:languages:perl | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel%3a/languages%3a/perl/openSUSE_11.2 |
28 | devel:languages:python | devel:languages:python | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel%3a/languages%3a/python/openSUSE_11.2/ |
29 | devel:languages:ruby | devel:languages:ruby | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel%3a/languages%3a/ruby/openSUSE_11.2/ |
30 | devel:tools:scm | devel:tools:scm | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel%3a/tools%3a/scm/openSUSE_11.2/ |
31 | download.opensuse.org-2.28 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:STABLE:2.28 | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.28/openSUSE_11.2/ |
32 | download.opensuse.org-Apps | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Apps | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Apps/openSUSE_11.2/ |
33 | download.opensuse.org-Community | openSUSE BuildService - Społeczność KDE4 | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2/ |
34 | download.opensuse.org-Community_1 | openSUSE BuildService - Społeczność Mono | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Mono:/Community/openSUSE_11.2/ |
35 | download.opensuse.org-STABLE | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.2/ |
36 | download.opensuse.org-Wine | openSUSE BuildService - Wydania Wine z CVS | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_11.2/ |
37 | download.opensuse.org-database | openSUSE BuildService - Bazy danych | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database/openSUSE_11.2/ |
39 | download.opensuse.org-lxde | LXDE Repository | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/lxde/openSUSE_11.2/ |
40 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.2/ |
41 | download.opensuse.org-php | openSUSE BuildService - PHP | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/php/openSUSE_11.2/ |
42 | download.opensuse.org-standard | Repozytorium główne (Contrib) | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.2:/Contrib/standard/ |
43 | download.opensuse.org-webcam | openSUSE BuildService - Sterowniki kamer internetowych | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_11.2/ |
45 | download.videolan.org-SuSE | VideoLan Repository | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.2/ |
47 | http-download.opensuse.org-e2fe978b | Aktualizacje dla openSUSE 11.2-0 | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/ |
48 | multimedia:apps | multimedia:apps | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia%3a/apps/openSUSE_11.2/ |
49 | multimedia:libs | multimedia:libs | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia%3a/libs/openSUSE_11.2/ |
51 | openSUSE-11.2-Oss | openSUSE-11.2-Oss | Tak | Tak | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss |
52 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE%3a/Factory%3a/Contrib/openSUSE_11.2/ |
53 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman Repository | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/11.2/ |
55 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss | Tak | Tak | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/ |
58 | server:database:postgresql | server:database:postgresql | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/database%3a/postgresql/openSUSE_11.2/ |
59 | server:dns | server:dns | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/dns/openSUSE_11.2/ |
60 | server:ftp | server:ftp | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/ftp/openSUSE_11.2/ |
61 | server:http | server:http | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/http/openSUSE_11.2/ |
62 | server:mail | server:mail | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/mail/openSUSE_11.2/ |
63 | server:monitoring:opennms | server:monitoring:opennms | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/monitoring%3a/opennms/openSUSE_11.2/ |
64 | server:proxy | server:proxy | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/proxy/openSUSE_11.2 |
65 | server:proxy:openSUSE_Factory | server:proxy:openSUSE_Factory | Tak | Tak | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server%3a/proxy/openSUSE_Factory |
I’ve omitted disabled repos because of too long message.
You know about the switcher, like this?
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I know but I always do ‘zypper dup’.
I have to smile…
Are you serious dude!
Couldn’t you find any more to add:O
I could but didn’t have time for that 
Is it something wrong with using so many repos? They are publicly available so i thougt it’s not.
See what you make of this
NEW Users - openSuse Pre-install (general) – PLEASE READ
I am user of openSUSE since version 10.3 as I remember, and still don’t get how warnings for new users affect me.
I have noticed something wrong and wanted to share with this. I won’t waste my time for useless discussion.
rafalskonecki wrote:
> I won’t waste my time for useless discussion.
[this is probably gonna sound harsher than i intend, so try to not get
all defensive–my intent is to help you…]
i’ve been using Linux since about '98 (exclusively since about 2002)
and i STILL have lots to learn…i read everything written for new
folks, and learn a LOT that way…
but, if you are so advanced that you don’t have time to read
oldcpu’s discussion about which four basic repos are the ONLY ones you
should constantly have enabled (ESPECIALLY before you execute “zypper
dup”)… then…well, then you are a really advanced user and
should be here helping folks sort out exactly the kind of problems you
are now having!!
i guess you already know how to recover, since you so easily brush
aside (and thereby disrespect) the efforts of both caf4926 and oldcpu
to help you…
let me try this extra encouragement: here is a direct link to one
article, try to find the time to read one paragraph, the one which
begins with a bold “IMPORTANT” in http://tinyurl.com/33qc9vu
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
but, if you are so advanced that you don’t have time to read
oldcpu’s discussion about which four basic repos are the ONLY ones you
should constantly have enabled (ESPECIALLY before you execute “zypper
dup”)… then…well, then you are a really advanced user and
should be here helping folks sort out exactly the kind of problems you
are now having!!
I’m not feeling I’m advanced user. I just use openSUSE for every day work. That’s all. So I don’t feel strong enough to help others.
i guess you already know how to recover, since you so easily brush
aside (and thereby disrespect) the efforts of both caf4926 and oldcpu
to help you…
I didn’t want to show disrespec to anyone but i felt caf4926 wanted to show me his/her superiority. Nr of repositories has nothing to do with the problem of this thread. That’s why i didn’t want to continue this discussion but still, I will give all I can to help.
let me try this extra encouragement: here is a direct link to one
article, try to find the time to read one paragraph, the one which
begins with a bold “IMPORTANT” in NEW Users - openSuse Pre-install (general) – PLEASE READ
I have read this, I read this when caf4926 told me to. And I repeat, I still don’t know why I should delete repos I have added. Maybe there is something on this page that i don’t understand… (I haven’t used english since few years). If You will be so nice to point me clearly to the problem of many repos, and explain me why I can’t have so many i assure You, I will adapt.
caf4926 is a he - not a she or even a he-she.
Go to software management and search for: k3b
Now go to the versions tab and tell me how many options you see
The problem with too many repos is you have so many sources for the same package. Enough said for now.
caf4926 is a he - not a she or even a he-she.
OK
Go to software management and search for: k3b
Now go to the versions tab and tell me how many options you see
8 options, 2 different architectures per one repo. And I’m using the latest version from /KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_11.2
The problem with too many repos is you have so many sources for the same package. Enough said for now.
For zypper it’s not a problem, so for me it’s not too. The only problem i have with many repos is Amarok ‘unstable’ version in /KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory but I solved it with ‘zypper al -r’ on that repo.
As you wish…
rafalskonecki wrote:
> For zypper it’s not a problem, so for me it’s not too. The only problem
> i have with many repos is Amarok ‘unstable’ version in
> /KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE_Distro_Factory but I solved it
> with ‘zypper al -r’ on that repo.
when you have more than the basic four repos enabled and zypper dup
you pull in conflicting packages from all the different sources and
are sure to make your system unstable…
yes, you can manually go in and wicker each little problem, if you
can find the problems introduced–and, there will be many problems
introduced…it is imho much better (if you want a usable system) to
follow oldcpu’s advice and manage your system as it was designed to be
managed, with the four basic repos…
additionally, “Factory” is not a good place to update from unless
you want the very latest (like last night), mostly UNTESTED (or poorly
tested, at best) unstable, and undependable code available…
yes, there are many folks here running from Factory, but they fall
into two categories:
-
those who are purposefully testing the new code and doing so in a
sandbox/testing system which contains zero important data or
production responsibilities—because they know that the entire system
may die and take ALL their music, photos, movies, letters to Aunt
Tillie and etc with it, at any random second! -
those who have no clue and update from Factory their only machine
(containing everything important to them) with no backup whatsoever…
which group are you in?
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
when you have more than the basic four repos enabled and zypper dup
you pull in conflicting packages from all the different sources and
are sure to make your system unstable…
It’s stable enough for me.
yes, you can manually go in and wicker each little problem, if you
can find the problems introduced–and, there will be many problems
introduced…it is imho much better (if you want a usable system) to
follow oldcpu’s advice and manage your system as it was designed to be
managed, with the four basic repos…
I will agree if main repos include stable version of Privoxy(in OSS is beta!!!), some version of mercurial and many other packages I can’t find there 
From few hours the list also include bespin theme as i suppose. Don’t remember whether bespin was in OSS but in “KDE main 3 repos” was and today it gone.
additionally, “Factory” is not a good place to update from unless
you want the very latest (like last night), mostly UNTESTED (or poorly
tested, at best) unstable, and undependable code available…
I know what means RC2 version and what means “svn…” in package name. KDE is somehow unstable even in ‘stable’ 4.3 version so if i have to choose between unstable and unstable with new features i prefer the second.
yes, there are many folks here running from Factory, but they fall
into two categories:
those who are purposefully testing the new code and doing so in a
sandbox/testing system which contains zero important data or
production responsibilities—because they know that the entire system
may die and take ALL their music, photos, movies, letters to Aunt
Tillie and etc with it, at any random second!those who have no clue and update from Factory their only machine
(containing everything important to them) with no backup whatsoever…which group are you in?
None of them. I have never lost data and I do periodical backups. Photos and music are on ‘ro’ partitions.
DenverD
CAVEAT: C A V E A T [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3][/QUOTE]
rafalskonecki wrote:
>> which group are you in?
>>
> None of them. I have never lost data and I do periodical backups.
> Photos and music are on ‘ro’ partitions.
as caf4926 said: as you wish…
by using them all you acknowledge that you know how to solve your own
problems…so, when you run into problems while using all of those
repos it is not fair to come here and use our time trying to help a
helpless/hopeless situation…which is “stable enough for you”…
see your delimma now?
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
by using them all you acknowledge that you know how to solve your own
problems…so, when you run into problems while using all of those
repos it is not fair to come here and use our time trying to help a
helpless/hopeless situation…which is “stable enough for you”…
see your delimma now?
DD. You have a astute ability of ‘Hitting the nail on the Head’!
as caf4926 said: as you wish…
by using them all you acknowledge that you know how to solve your own
problems…so, when you run into problems while using all of those
repos it is not fair to come here and use our time trying to help a
helpless/hopeless situation…which is “stable enough for you”…see your delimma now?
I don’t have enough strengh to explain You what is the main problem and why i started this thread.
I’m only wasting my time here…
After all, good luck…
caf4926 wrote:
> DD. You have a astute ability of ‘Hitting the nail on the Head’!
unfortunately, some here characterize my ability as over the top!
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
[quote] Sometimes, after update, it looks like in repo are old packages but version numbers are higher than previous. It looks like there are two ‘packagers’ and one of them makes packages from older builds.
I think what you have is an update cluster *#%k. Your package versions and updates are directly related to the installed version, the repos you have active, and whatever instructions you have administered over time. Your seeing a direct result of updating from the collection of repos you listed. From what I see and with my limited but profound experience at borking my system through package mis-management. I am humbled in the face of true brevity. I added kde4 stable and kde4 updates stable repos and thought I was testing my metal and my understanding of yast, zypper (not dup … shiver), and the package switcher concerning updates and package management. You should likely not be concerned with indications of older or newer versions of your software or your active, inactive, or deleted repositories. Your system is apparently stable and your update procedure is working for you. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain…