Hello, I would like to hear (actually I’ll read them :P) some opinions about this.
openSUSE offers KDE as the default desktop environment and I have read some good comments about how openSUSE offered it nice and polished.
But, now, what is this, that openSUSE is offering, that makes openSUSE + KDE a special combination? (or is it not such a special combination?)
And what would you say to help someone that wants to have the best KDE experience and can’t choose between, for example, kubuntu, fedora KDE and openSUSE KDE?
I believe kubuntu offers quite a number of KDE software to download (without adding repositories), muon discover (a software center for KDE) and driver support, that may be necessary to experience KDE correctly. On the other hand I noticed that openSUSE offers “open dolphin as root” which I haven’t found in other KDE distributions (and is very important) but many KDE applications are not availabe in the official repos and while the discover software center can be installed, it is empty of apps when I open it (in tumbleweed).
So, what else can openSUSE offer for the KDE environment to consider this a good choice between other KDE distributions?
I would like to know as I am using openSUSE KDE and want to know what I am getting and what I am missing
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Overall openSUSE has a name to hold re. the quality of their KDE implementation. Being the first distro that ships Plasma5 as the KDE desktop ( I’m not discussing “default desktop” or such ), it has had to deal with the first user experiences. Now I see the same issues rising on other distros: issues with nouveau / Plasma5, complaints about not having a background per virtual desktop, not much different from the stuff we’ve seen.
Having seen/run other KDE implementations on other distros, I think openSUSE delivers one of the most polished implementations of Plasma5. Thanks to our KDE Team, a huge thanks to them …
Be cause it is not realy the default desktop. As the installer offers a so called “radio button” range to choose which desktop you want to install and as one of the options must be on (and the others off) in such a range, one has to choose which one is on when offereing the window. That is all. You can choose Gnome or clicking “other” which will offer you even more possibilities. And after installation, it is pretty easy to add more DEs by just installing their Pattern.
There is a huge choice and for those that do not know what to click, they get KDE. You can call that a default when you want. Like you get DHCP when you don’t know what to do and NetworkManager in some cases, etc. The installer tries to provide a usable system even for those that never installed Linux before and have not much knowledge about it and/or computers in general.
No, that’s not what I mean. Henk already explains this, and I’m tended to accept the idea that with having the KDE option pre-selected, one would assume that KDE is the default desktop. Which it actually isn’t, i.e. it has never been chosen as “default openSUSE desktop”. The debates on this have been true flame wars ( about nothing IMHO ), I wanted to make clear that I’m not willing to have that debate again. That’s all. Rather keep it to the OP’s title.
Oh, okay. Of course. I just reproduced what I usually see written when surfing the web… xfce for manjaro, gnome 3 for fedora, etc…
So from what I read above, we conclude that openSUSE + KDE is not a more special combination than other combinations, let’s say, for example, manjaro + KDE? (note: I have observed that manjaro provides a very polished KDE environment with extra options and applications)
Well I have tested i e Kubuntu and I was not impressed by muon and several other things there. I know that I whine a lot and make people laugh by my comments but still I’m at openSUSE with KDE(plasma 5). Why?
It give me the least trouble as I have detected so far. On top of this is all the things behind and combined with the Plasma 5 De.
By the way, should it be called KDE (as in KDE 5) or Plasma (as in Plasma 5) now on days. Beats me :P.
Hellooo
Yes I agree with your opinion in general. I have had a few things though that I need(ed) to fix for my openSUSE KDE, but in general I also stick with it.
But could you tell us, what these problems/troubles were that you had, and not have with openSUSE? It would be good to hear :shame:
I can only say that I have tried Fedora KDE and kubuntu. I still prefer opensuse. But go with whatever you prefer.
My experience is that opensuse KDE comes already about how I like it. With both Fedora and kubuntu, I have to go looking for software. Yes, that’s probably easier in kubuntu – I don’t think I ever had to add repos.
I do like that kubuntu has gpg1 as well as gpg2. I’m not really using that, but I occasionally want to look through old stuff with older rsa keys (from pgp2 days). Those older keys are still okay on Leap 42.1, but no longer recognized with Tumbleweed.
The bottom line: go with the distro that works best for you.
On 2016-04-10, Linux4Pharmacy <Linux4Pharmacy@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
> And what would you say to help someone that wants to have the best KDE
> experience and can’t choose between, for example, kubuntu, fedora KDE
> and openSUSE KDE?
I haven’t used Kubuntu or Fedora KDE but have experience on Mint KDE and Gentoo KDE. What sets openSUSE apart is:
YaST.
OBS.
DE multivalence.
Optional full LSB compliance.
> So, what else can openSUSE offer for the KDE environment to consider
> this a good choice between other KDE distributions?
Nothing. KDE is KDE. There are signs of openSUSE brandings but which desktop you choose won’t too different between
different GNU/Linux distributions running the same DE version. Obviously there are exceptions to this such as:
I’m still finding other GNU/Linux distributions implementing KDE4 rather than Plasma 5 by default.
Systemd-dependent GNOME versions obviously require a GNU/Linux distribution running on systemd.
Some GNU/Linux distro developers like to waste time and resources by software duplication by coming up with their own DEs.
> I would like to know as I am using openSUSE KDE and want to know what I
> am getting and what I am missing
Try all the candidates. A base install of a binary GNU/Linux system takes no more than 10 minutes these days, and then
another 10-20 minutes depending on your internet speed and number of package updates.
For me, the killer feature of openSUSE’s implementation of KDE until 13.2 was that you could run KDE3 apps alongside KDE4 without breaking anything and I still do that on my 13.2 laptop. I haven’t got round to looking at the general support for older KDE apps in LEAP except that there is a bug in spectacle which stops it working as the Print Screen program; so I have installed ksnapshot which works fine.
The only thing you have to do is reassign the global hotkey. The screenshotting has gotten it’s own section in the special hotkeys, assign that to PrtScn and you’re in business.
It just looks really nice. I still have a CD of 11.2 in KDE, you can find my thread about it in this section, “revert to 11.2 theme”, as I think it’s probably the best theme to date, 7 years later.
I always thought openSUSE and Slackware had the best KDE experience. openSUSE for the way it integrates with the entire system and Slackware for its pure “vanilla” experience. Other distros seem to get one or the other wrong.
Having dabbled a bit with Kubuntu and Fedora KDE,
IMO
KDE on openSUSE is far superior because of the following (besides YAST)
Konsole. Unless you can somehow avoid using a console, openSUSE provides colorizing various modes and support for various use I don’t think is necessarily obvious or well in other distros. For example, to instantly know if you’re running with elevated permissions. Another, if you’re editing a web page, the tags are clearly distinct.
Overall appearance. There’s just something about the general graphical appearance with default settings with more contrast and sharper text (font settings?).
Menu organization. To me, menu organization is more traditional… similar to how things have been viewed going all the way back to WinxP to Win3.x. I’d rather not see things organized in ways that don’t naturally make sense.
