Hi there. I’m on suse 11.1, kde 4.1 upgraded to 4.3 and experience kde freezing constantly, let’s say once every day. It doesn’t matter which apps do I have open, It may also be that there is no application running, I leave the pc for 15 min alone, and when I come back, kde is frozen, nothing seems to work, to activate it back, only the Alc+Ctrl+Backspace to logout from it, but even this way, when I login again, sometimes desktop loads ok, sometimes it shows just black screen with only mouse pointer active. But It does not freeze always because of inactivity, it freezes also during active work. I don’t remember when this started, but my installation is pretty fresh with not many apps. However this is getting really annoying and would like to solve it somehow, any advice would be much appreciated, thanks.
Open a terminal and post result from this:
zypper lr -d
Assuming repos/versions are correct (which may not be the case) could this also possibly be a powersave issue where a bug in KDE locks the screen inappropriately, even though the screen saver is disabled?
I also note there are different versions of KDE-4.3. There is KDE-4.3, 4.3.1, and 4.3.2. Whether that makes a difference I do not know, but it may help if more precision was given. Also, is this a 32-bit or 64-bit openSUSE ?
On my 64-bit openSUSE-11.1 with KDE-4.3.1, the screen saver kept locking on the laptop after 30 seconds or so, even though power management says not to lock, and the screen saver says not to lock !! This was when the laptop was plugged in. (I also had this happen on a desktop with 32-bit openSUSE-11.1 with KDE-4.3.1). I have not seen this on openSUSE-11.2 milestone8 with KDE-4.3.1 (or is it KDE-4.3.2) ? I finally found a work around which was to change the definition of the Power Save activity when the laptop was plugged in. But it was a pain for the 30 minutes or so when it kept kicking in, locking and demanding a password.
Clearly this was a KDE4 bug (or a bug in the KDE4 power save application). Fortunately the work around is ok in 4.3.1. I now have 4.3.2 applied, but I have not removed my settings to test to see if this is fixed.
Thanks for your replies, I’ll post more info when I get home, thanks in advance for help.
When KDE freezes, do ctrl-alt-f2 and log in, then type top. Top will list the applications that are taking up the most resources. From there we can figure out specifically what in KDE is freezing.
As a side note, may also want to read up on DCOPserver.
When KDE freezes, do ctrl-alt-f2 and log in, then type top. Top will list the applications that are taking up the most resources. From there we can figure out specifically what in KDE is freezing.
Jonathan_R thanks, how couldn’t I come up with this idea :shame:, I’ll check it and report back
these are my repos:
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
---+----------------------+-----------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | 11.1 | 11.1 | No | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/ |
2 | KDE_4.3_suse_factory | KDE 4.3 suse factory | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Factory%3a/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/ |
3 | NVIDIA Repository | NVIDIA Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1 |
4 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1 |
5 | Packman-RPMs | Packman-RPMs | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/11.1 |
6 | openSUSE_11.1-0 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ |
7 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ |
8 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 120 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/ |
9 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 120 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ |
10 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ |
11 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/ |
If these repos don’t seem well configured, pls tell me which one to delete/retain and how to set it’s priorities according to your best practice.
Assuming repos/versions are correct (which may not be the case) could this also possibly be a powersave issue where a bug in KDE locks the screen inappropriately, even though the screen saver is disabled?
possibly the powersave fires the same trigger to freeze desktop, but this doesn’t help me solve freezing, as I said freezing also occures while actively working with applications like VirtualBox. I don’t have any screen saver selected. Kde version (as appears in dolhpin) is Version 4.3.00 (KDE 4.3.0) “release 152”, it is a 32 bit suse 11.1
2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
So today it hasn’t frozen yet:), but will pay attention when it does to check running processes. I would appreciated any suggestion on how to solve this thing, thanks again.
Assuming beagle is gone and you have disable all screensaving. The repos seem reasonably ok. You could delete #1 and 5, as they are duplicates. We are advising now that Packman have higher priority, so you could change it to 90.
The repos seem reasonably ok. You could delete #1 and 5, as they are duplicates. We are advising now that Packman have higher priority, so you could change it to 90.
ok, did as suggested, now I have to solve my freezing somehowshould I upgrade to latest kde version? How do I achieve that actually? Can I do it in Yast->select kde repo-> All in the list->update unconditionally? Will this update my kde to the latest 4.3.x version, or should it update it self automatically?
Change the kde4 Factory to this one:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/43/openSUSE_11.1
There is a howto here:
KDE 4.3.2 HowTo for 11.1 - openSUSE Forums
These are my repos:
1 | packman_1 | packman | Yes | Yes | 90 | rpm-md | Index of /packman/suse/11.1 |
2 | 43_Desktop | 43 Desktop | Yes | Yes | 98 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/43/openSUSE_11.1 |
3 | kde4_community_factory | kde4 community factory | Yes | Yes | 98 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop |
4 | Updates | Updates | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | UK Mirror Service: sites/download.opensuse.org/update/11.1 |
5 | Non-oss | Non-oss | Yes | Yes | 100 | yast2 | UK Mirror Service: sites/download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss |
6 | Oss | Oss | Yes | Yes | 100 | yast2 | UK Mirror Service: sites/download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
Ok caf4926 thanks, I’ll try it, will post results 
As noted in the HowTo, if you look in the kde43 filter in software management, you’ll see lots of red and blue, update unconditionally in here. Although some have just updated if newer ver avail and it’s been ok.
Hi, I did try to check what processes were running during freeze, but haven’t found out anything useful, the only app on the top was skype, I did kill it but, this didn’t unfreeze the desktop, so I guess it is not an application bug but rather a kde bug. Here is the list
eHeJe0;10mtop - 22:35:13 up 5:57, 4 users, load average: 2.04, 1.48, 1.04e0;10me39;49meK
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Cpu(s):e0;10me39;49me0;10m 2.7%e0;10me39;49mus,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0.6%e0;10me39;49msy,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0.1%e0;10me39;49mni,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 95.9%e0;10me39;49mid,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0.8%e0;10me39;49mwa,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0.0%e0;10me39;49mhi,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0.0%e0;10me39;49msi,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0.0%e0;10me39;49mste0;10me39;49meK
Mem: e0;10me39;49me0;10m 4552216k e0;10me39;49mtotal,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 1488896k e0;10me39;49mused,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 3063320k e0;10me39;49mfree,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 82992k e0;10me39;49mbufferse0;10me39;49meK
Swap:e0;10me39;49me0;10m 7333664k e0;10me39;49mtotal,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 0k e0;10me39;49mused,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 7333664k e0;10me39;49mfree,e0;10me39;49me0;10m 1076700k e0;10me39;49mcachede0;10me39;49meK
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e7m PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND e0;10me39;49meK
e0;10me0;10m10715 arcull 20 0 2412 912 680 R 4 0.0 0:00.02 top e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 1 root 20 0 1008 356 308 S 0 0.0 0:01.16 init e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 2 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.38 ksoftirqd/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 5 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 6 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.78 ksoftirqd/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 7 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.92 events/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 8 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:01.34 events/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 9 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 10 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 11 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 12 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 13 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.22 kblockd/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 14 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 15 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpi_notify e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 16 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 cqueue e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 17 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 18 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:03.24 kondemand/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 19 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kondemand/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 20 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 21 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.64 pdflush e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 22 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 23 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 24 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 25 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kpsmoused e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 58 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.04 ata/0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 59 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:05.20 ata/1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 60 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata_aux e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 63 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:13.70 scsi_eh_0 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 64 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_1 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 68 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_2 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 69 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_3 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 70 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_4 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 71 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_5 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 75 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_6 e0;10me39;49m
e0;10m 76 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_7 e0;10me39;49m
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e0;10m 1113 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khpsbpkt e0;10me39;49m
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e0;10m 2197 root 20 0 17648 2592 1760 S 0 0.1 0:00.06 console-kit-dae e0;10me39;49m
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Right now I did the kde upgrade following caf’s instructions, will post results
Today it did freeze again >:( What else could I try, or better how can I find the reason of freezing. I’m running Ubuntu 9.04 x64 on my laptop with kde 4.3.1 smooth without any freezing till now, so I really wonder where the problem here is. Is it hardware related? Is it suse related? Didn’t anyone else experience similar freezing? Any advice welcome, thanks
Please also check System Settings - General Tab - Display - Power Control
Make sure it is NOT checked in there. As with all other screen saving in:
System Settings - General Tab - Desktop -Screen Saver
and
System Settings - Advanced Tab - Power management
Screen saver wasn’t active. But I did uncheck “Lock screen on resume”,“Let PowerDevil manage screen powersaving” in Power management and “Enable dislplay power management” in Power Control, this 3 ticks were active, so I removed them, will see if it gets any better, thanks again.
It doesn’t help, still freezing 
What graphic driver? vesa? openGL ? proprietary nvidia? proprietary ati ? Try changing your graphic driver.
What graphic driver? vesa? openGL ? proprietary nvidia? proprietary ati ? Try changing your graphic driver.
lspci |grep VGA
00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (rev a2)
glxinfo |grep OpenGL
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 185.18.14
find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -iname "nvidia.ko" -exec strings {} \; |grep "nvidia id"
nvidia id: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 185.18.14 Wed May 27 02:23:13 PDT 2009
I did install proprietary drivers from their web site, not via yast, that shouldn’t make any difference. If I check it in yast I have booth: nvidia-gfxG002-kmp-pae and x11-video-nvidiaG02 installed, I’ll try to reinstall them now.
KDE 4.3.0 gave me a number of issues, maybe you should try to remove your KDE config files and then update to KDE 4.3.2.