Does someone want to announce/post about this - [opensuse-project] Decision made - openFATE feature 306967, KDE default](http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-08/msg00548.html)
Crap, I guess I just did 
oh well.
decriptor adjusted his/her AFDB on Thursday 20 Aug 2009 23:36 to write:
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> Does someone want to announce/post about this - ‘[opensuse-project]
> Decision made - openFATE feature 306967, KDE default’
> (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-08/msg00548.html)
>
>
Well it is not exactly a default install, it is a default choice, there is a
big big difference.
And IIRC there will also be a custom button which will allow you to install
other desktops and or just a console login, so really no difference except
for the placing on a tick in a box.
SuSE has always slightly favoured KDE even from the very beginnings when QT
was still a bit dodgy due to the licensing back in the 90`s.
Just a storm brewing in a tea cup if you ask me.
I am an avid fan of KDE ( I have never used gnome except for trouble
shooting KDE ) been using it since it was first released but at the moment I
have taken a fancy to xfce and have been using that for a couple of weeks
now and am liking it more and more each day.
Horses for courses.
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Mark
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you are right… the topic is a bit misleading other than if you hit next the whole way you get kde. I actually use both desktops on and off.
This is nothing more than having kde’s radio button selected by default.
There has been for a least 11.1, maybe 11.0 (can’t remember) the ability to click on something that will give you the option to install something other than gnome or kde. I think it would be cool if they added moblin to the list as well. (for 11.3)
decriptor adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 21 Aug 2009 00:16 to write:
> There has been for a least 11.1, maybe 11.0 (can’t remember) the
> ability to click on something that will give you the option to install
> something other than gnome or kde. I think it would be cool if they
> added moblin to the list as well. (for 11.3)
>
>
I suppose if people ask enough in FATE and there is enough space on the disk
it would be possible.
Just as long as they do not get rid of any of the really needed things like
the bsd games and other very important apps.
still plays a good game of cribbage.
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Mark
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Very true. Totally forgot about space restraints 
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:16:02 +0000, decriptor wrote:
> There has been for a least 11.1, maybe 11.0 (can’t remember) the ability
> to click on something that will give you the option to install something
> other than gnome or kde. I think it would be cool if they added moblin
> to the list as well. (for 11.3)
I agree, I’ve been interested myself in the Moblin stuff but haven’t
gotten around to installing it.
Jim
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I was able to play around with one of the earlier builds. It was pretty cool. Definitely had some bugs then. I’ve been meaning to get back to trying out the latest build.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:16:02 +0000, decriptor wrote:
> I was able to play around with one of the earlier builds. It was pretty
> cool. Definitely had some bugs then. I’ve been meaning to get back to
> trying out the latest build.
Is there a repository on OBS? I might need to play a bit too. I use
Linux for day-to-day work, and my wife observed that I’ve been spending
less time “tinkering” lately; maybe this is something I should tinker
with.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
I can vouch for the Fedora version being usable now.
It’s still got bugs, no doubt, but you can actually use it as a browsing / notetaking sort of thing without hitting brick walls all the time. The default browser still has trouble with the odd website, but it’s got Firefox 3.5 in it as well, and that tends to work if you get stuck.
Haven’t tried the suse version yet though.
Exactly. That is why I am using SuSE today, since it is still the easiest way to obtain a smooth KDE experience.
I guess if I would prefer Gnome, I would have already looked at many other distributions as well. I don’t want to judge whether this would be good or bad, but all I want to say is that the KDE support is what sets SuSE apart from other distros for me.
> I am an avid fan of KDE ( I have never used gnome except for trouble
> shooting KDE ) been using it since it was first released but at the moment
> I have taken a fancy to xfce and have been using that for a couple of
> weeks now and am liking it more and more each day.
Yep, my second choice would also be Xfce.
GofBorg wrote:
>> I am an avid fan of KDE ( I have never used gnome except for trouble
>> shooting KDE ) been using it since it was first released but at the moment
>> I have taken a fancy to xfce and have been using that for a couple of
>> weeks now and am liking it more and more each day.
>
> Yep, my second choice would also be Xfce.
>
Which is funny since XFCE is written in GTK not QT.
Death to gnome! Death to gnome! Death to gnome! Death to gnome! Death to gnome! Death to gnome…
gives out torches and pitchforks
Chrysantine, … nice of you to pile so much straw, for the flame throwers to light their torches and have a party. rotfl!
In truth, the decision to make KDE4 a default surprised me, as I know how controversial it is.
But I also appreciate the argument, that forcing new users to have to choose a desktop complicates their life needlessly. They can just click thru this desktop selection now … (and then re-install openSUSE-11.2 2 months later when the gnome lords turn them back to the dark side. 
rotfl! ).
In a slightly more serious conciliatory tone, perhaps in 11.3 we need to make gnome the default, and then alternate every release?
Long live Gnome, Long live Gnome!!!
passes out buckets of water
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Does this mean dropping the G from GStreamer? What will all you folks
do for multimedia? KSteamer? (typo on purpose…)
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Here comes the water:
In truth, they only made it a pre-selection. Not a default DE, as the choice is still yours to make. I know it sounds like a lawyer’s trick, but I wish they would do the same for multimedia support.
And now the petrol:
I thought gnome was dead already, or did it become the “undead” :O.
Hi
Yup, Thriller is our theme song…
It’s because us gnome users (all one of us) don’t have any issues…
everything just works
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> Which is funny since XFCE is written in GTK not QT.
Irrelevant. I have no fondness for GTK vs QT, it the
assemblage of rubbish design called GNOME that is the issue.