I just logged into the KDE Desktop on a new install (2 days old) of openSUSE 11.1 (so far using gnome & occasionally XFCE). Nearly as soon as I logged in, there was an error msg saying ‘The Plasma Desktop has crashed’ and all desktop icons disappeared. Tried right-clicking Desktop and manipulating few options, but did not help.
How can I remedy this ? I do not have KDE3 installed, just KDE4 (Base & applications), in addition to gnome & XFCE.
Thanks,
if you rename your ~/.kde4 directory to something else (like .kde4backup, for instance) and restart X (logout and login again) you should have the initial desktop back. Not good, though, if your previous one was heavily customized.
Login to gnome.
First go to hidden user files. And delete .kde4
Now add these repos
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1+Qt45
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop
Then update all in those repo’s (there may be nothing installed from extra)
Try kde4 again
(* zypper up - is an option as I don’t think the gnome Yast interface is a intuitive as in kde and you can’t easily select update all in this list unconditionally)
Some plasma widgets may have to be deleted to solve dependency issues
Login to gnome.
First go to hidden user files. And delete .kde4
Every time I delete the “~/.kde4” dir, it gets rebuilt. Same thing happens with the renaming option. Tried it from a boot CD (Parted Magic 3.4 CD), but <~/.kde4> got rebuilt again.
Now add these repos
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1+Qt45
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop
Have added these 3 KDE repositories in YaST (YaST2 → Software Reposotories).
Then update all in those repo’s (there may be nothing installed from extra)
How do I update all software in those repos? (what module in YaST). Am presently using the XFCE Desktop environment.
(* zypper up - is an option as I don’t think the gnome Yast interface is a intuitive as in kde and you can’t easily select update all in this list unconditionally)
Am not familiar with zypper cmd, mainly do things through the X Windows interface.
Note:
I am re-installing the KDE4 & KDE4 Base apps (from ‘Patterns’ in YaST Software Management) from the DVD & online update.
When you’re finished with the installation immediately update with these sources(caf4926 posted them) your KDE installation.
How to add the repos:Add Package Repositories to YaST - openSUSE.
Getting the following Error Message, when I try to Login to KDE4:
Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation.
On clicking ‘okay’ button, I can then Login to another desktop (presently using XFCE).
Is there a way to re-install KDE4 from scratch (from the install DVD)? This would mean installing KDE 4.1 Later, I can upgrade to KDE 4.2.
I always do a clean install with minimal or xfce in it to make the installation quicker (you’re done approximately more or less 30 minutes depending on how you figure out your set-up). When all is running I just add the proper repositories of which DE I wanted to try and go from there. Maybe you could either try removing your present kde 4.1 before installing kde 4.2 or just go ahead and just upgrade kde 4.1 to kde 4.2. Yesterday I installed opensuse 11.1 with xfce, after the installation I added the kde 4.2 factory repositories and xfce 4.6 rc1 in yast and installed it.
These are the lists of repositories that you can probably use, you can cut and paste this in it’s proper places when you add it in yast2.
KDE 4.2 DESKTOP
download.opensuse.org
/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/
KDE4.2 COMMUNITY
download.opensuse.org
/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/
KDE4.2 EXTRA APPS
download.opensuse.org
/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1/
All of those listed above can be found in this link:
Index of /repositories/KDE:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community
Maybe you could either try removing your present kde 4.1 before installing kde 4.2 or just go ahead and just upgrade kde 4.1 to kde 4.2.
I tried to do that in YaST Package Management, but there are too many dependency issues that may make the system unstable, if carried out.
So, presently, I am installing KDE 3 (with updates) & if that goes ok, then would probably look into installing KDE 4.2.
Yesterday I installed opensuse 11.1 with xfce, after the installation I added the kde 4.2 factory repositories and xfce 4.6 rc1 in yast and installed it.
Now that I am using XFCE for first time, I find it a very usable & simple DE. I could get the main XFCE repos from here: X11:xfce - openSUSE. How can I get the 4.6 RC1? Is it stable (the present XFCE with openSUSE 11.1 seems much more stable than gnome & KDE, in my ltd experience) ?
Here is the xfce 4.6 repo,
XFCE 4.6
download.opensuse.org
/repositories/X11:/xfce:/unstable/openSUSE_Factory/
Be warned the repo says unstable. You may use it at your own risk.
So far I have no problem with it. Best thing you can do is to fix your first problem with kde. When all is well go another step and upgrade your xfce.
Just comeback to say that there is a lot of update since the release of kde 4.6 rc1. Almost everyday, maybe the best you can do is just hold for the time being and just wait for xfce 4.6. It’s not gonna be a long wait.
Thanks for letting me know. I am staying with XFCE 4.4 (current version), until the final release is put out. I didn’t know of the openSUSE XFCE repo though. Is there a 1-click install link for the latest XFCE, like there is for KDE 4.2 ?
About KDE, I did an online (+ DVD) update of KDE 3.5 (did not have KDE 3.5 installed earlier, only the default KDE 4.x that shipped with the openSUSE 11.1 DVD). After adding the repo’s and updating through YaST, the system booted properly into KDE 3.5 & I am able to use some KDE apps in XFCE as well (e.g. KWiFiManager, kaffeine media player).
With the 1-click install, I can’t answer you with that, because I haven’t use it. Maybe when the 4.6 is out it might be added in the 1-clickinstall, not sure though.
Yes that’s right you can use the kde and gnome applications in xfce and vice versa.
Additionally you can use the new kwin features of kde 4.2 in xfce. It works like compiz. I posted a screenshot of this in the January screenshot section of this forum.