KDE apps crashing

Hello all,

Been a gnome user for years, but decided to try the latest openSUSE(11.3), looks elegant. However, alot of the KDE apps crash when I went to run them:

-ktorrent crashes when adding a torrent
-dragonplayer crashes while trying to play a ASF file (I have restricted extras installed). VLC plays the file fine.

I also tested another KDE distro (kubuntu), to check and see if it was distro specific, and it’s not, same apps in both distros constantly crash when trying to run.

would like to run native installed apps, but they crash.

Any ideas?

–kevinpo

What do you mean by “latest openSUSE” ? Is that 11.3 or 11.4 Milestone 3 ?

sorry about that, caught that as soon as I posted. I am running 11.3 KDE

Can you tell us some more about your system, see my signature?
Specially the video card, did you install a driver for it?

Also how did you install KDE is this a fresh install KDE only or did you install KDE after you had a running gnome??

I used the openSUSE 11.3 live KDE cd to install of the 32bit.

nvidia driver though YAST

Here you go, hope this helps. I installed the nvicia driver through yast. I may remove them from yast and reinstall via the 1 click install.

Hey there,

You can launch the app from the command line and you will then see the ouput sent to standard out and standard error - this may well reveal what the issue is. Also, when the app crashes, you may be presented with the KDE bug handler, which can attempt to collect information (a back trace) of the crash. This is some helpful when you have debugging symbols for the libraries used by the app. There is a great guide for how to create useful crash reports available at: Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How to create useful crash reports - KDE TechBase (This gives data for the most popular distros, not just Suse.)

Cheers,
Lews Therin

here is what I get when I run it from the console:


Warning: Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing.
Warning: Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing.
drave@dugr:~> KCrash: Application 'ktorrent' crashing...
sock_file=/home/username/.kde4/socket-machinename/kdeinit4__0

Anyone? Any idea why KDE apps are crashing?

Just check, same files crash in Karreine with the following error:


Executable: kaffeine-xbu PID: 6613 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:06:02 +0530, kevinpo
<kevinpo@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Anyone? Any idea why KDE apps are crashing?

this sounds strange; the KDE apps. that are crashing for you, in both
openSUSE & kubuntu, are working OK for others. you wrote you installed
from a liveCD. which repos did you enable? to find out, run “zypper lr -d”
from a root terminal and paste the output here, please.


phani.

Hey there,
Honestly there is not really enough information here to go off. Did you see the link I posted earlier on how to create useful crash reports? Are you getting the KDE Bug Report tool when the Apps crash? If not you may need to run them with gdb to get a useful backtrace - though I would recommend using the KDE bug tool if at all possible.
If you get a full backtrace it is likely it will help determine the actual cause of the issue.
Cheers,
Lews Therin

On 2010-11-28 18:06, kevinpo wrote:
>
> I used the openSUSE 11.3 live KDE cd to install of the 32bit.

Did you update it?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Thank you all for your help in solving this issue.

@LewsTherinTelemon,

I tried to install the bug reporting tools, but also received an error. I will need to get the error when I go home this evening.

@robin_listas,
I have updated openSUSE, that is usually the first thing I do once installing an OS.

@phanisvara
Thanx, I will run this command when I get home this evening and report back the output.

On 2010-11-30 15:06, kevinpo wrote:

> @robin_listas,
> I have updated openSUSE, that is usually the first thing I do once
> installing an OS.

Run “zypper verify”.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Just to be clear, it sounds like a 32-bit Network Install initiated by the LiveCD?

If so, then I think it should be fully updated immediately (or nearly so).

Especially if this is a brand new install and should mean that you don’t have many custom configs and data yet, I’m thinking that after an initial look-around for anything obvious it might be a better use of your time to consider a pave/new install.

And, although a Network Install is really efficient downloading only what you configure and need it might make more sense in the long run to download the full DVD and install off that…

IMO,
Tony

I also have run into this repeatedly… The KDE Crash Handler itself crashes whenever I attempt to install the debugging symbols appropriate to the specific problem.

According to various webpages I’ve read, a SuSE RPM with “-debuginfo” likely contains the required symbols, but there are literally zillions of such packages specific to different applications and I’m reluctant to install all of them to “prepare” for an eventual crash of some sort, is there a recommended approach to selecting certain packages (assuming the KDE Crash Handler won’t be fixed any time soon).

I understand such “symbols” capture essential information about the process, so it’s no small thing when troubleshooting.

TIA,
Tony

I’ve never had much luck with liveCD’s, though they do get one up and running quickly. Stupid question, what you state this:

better use of your time to consider a pave/new instal

does pave mean a fresh install? Either way, I’m downloading the DVD now.

A reformat, then a new install.
In other words, if you have nothing to preserve then make sure there isn’t anything residual that can affect new.

Tony