KDE 4.2?

With KDE 4.2 being released tomorrow, I think I may upgrade KDE,
currently I am running 4.0.4 that came with the Suse 11 release. I have
never upgraded KDE alone so I have a few questions.

Will I lose all customization that I have done?
Will it effect any of my files? Configurations eg. fstab (I don’t think
it will, but just to be safe :wink: )
How exactly is the upgrade done? Is it difficult?
Can it be performed via YaST?

I have a pretty good knowledge of Linux from school but only recently
became a 100% home user of Linux.

Thanks guys!


Ninja1980

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Your core system settings will be untouched - fstab, sysctl.conf,
xorg.conf, etc. etc.

Your customizations -should- stay in place.

For example, I reinstalled openSUSE 11.1 x64 early this morning. I had
KDE4.2 RC before the reinstall with my plasma desktop all customized to
my liking. After reinstall was left with the standard KDE 4.1.3+, most
of my customizations were there but some plasmoids were missing since
they are in 4.2. After upgrading back to 4.2 RC1 plasma would load then
crash right away. I had to delete the plasma config files in my home
directory to stop the crashing…and naturally I had to re-customize my
desktop.

However the big stuff, my e-mail in Kmail, RSS feeds in Akregator,
Notes, Pics, Media, bookmarks/history in Konq, FF & Opera…all that
stuff is still here working perfectly fine.

But as a matter of pure prudence (and for your own piece of mind) why
not back-up your personal data? You should be doing that anyway.

As for the actual upgrade you can do it via YaST. You’ll need to add
the following repos then update:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0/
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt/openSUSE_11.0/
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.0/
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/

The first two you’ll need for the KDE 4.2 desktop. The last two are
not needed but helpful - you’ll find stuff like KOffice 2, extra
plasmoids (plasma widgets), and extra KDE 4 related apps.


Primary OS: openSUSE 11.1
Secondary OS: Fedora 10

VirtualBoxed OS: Windows 7 Beta
WINE won’t run it OS: Vista Home

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You can also update via the command line

Code:

su
[your administrator password]

zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0/ KDE4-Desktop
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt/openSUSE_11.0/ KDE4-Qt
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.0/ KDE4-Extras
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ KDE4-Community

zypper ref
zypper up

You’ll have to answer questions about trusting GPG keys and you may
have to resolve some conflicts depending on what KDE4 packages you’ve
already installed. I’ve never done the move from 4.0.4 to 4.2 so I
can’t tell which ones to look out for.

Good luck!


Primary OS: openSUSE 11.1
Secondary OS: Fedora 10

VirtualBoxed OS: Windows 7 Beta
WINE won’t run it OS: Vista Home

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Upgrade to 4.2 will not change fstab

4.2 is light years ahead of 4.0.4

Currently 4.2 RC1 is available from Factory.
http://tinyurl.com/5mxwaf

community:
http://tinyurl.com/65tbsr

you may also need QT:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt44/openSUSE_11.0/

I’m not entirely sure if and where they will move the packages too
after it is released proper.

If you are not familiar with using the Build Service repo’s you might
be better waiting and day or two

To upgrade simply add the repo to your list
Open Yast - Software Management
filter by repo and select the new kde4 repo
from the packages tab along the top of screen, select update all in
this list unconditionally.

There are some complications with dependencies. But we can help if you
can’t work through it.

It is of course possible to add the stable repo 4.1.3 now and enjoy
some benefits
http://tinyurl.com/3ttxs3

extra features from community here
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_STABLE_Desktop/
’ (http://tinyurl.com/9xfv63)


Box: Linux 2.6.27.9-159 i686 | Fedora 10 | Gnome 2.24.2 | M2N4-SLI | AMD
64 X2 5200+ | nVidia 8500GT | 2GB RAM
Lap: OS 11.1 | Celeron 550 | (KDE4.1.96)"78.2"rc1 | Intel 965 GM |
Lenovo R61e | 3GB RAM

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One more thing!

Be mindful that those repos will not have auto-refresh enabled. To
enable auto-refresh you’ll have to either enable it in the “Software
Repositories” module of YaST or use the command line.

Code:

su
[your administrator password]

zypper mr -r KDE4-Desktop
zypper mr -r KDE4-Qt
zypper mr -r KDE4-Extras
zypper mr -r KDE4-Community


If you don’t enable auto-refresh you’ll have to manually refresh those
4 repositories to catch any updates to KDE 4.2 that come down the pipe
later.


Primary OS: openSUSE 11.1
Secondary OS: Fedora 10

VirtualBoxed OS: Windows 7 Beta
WINE won’t run it OS: Vista Home

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If YaST shows some dependency problems - example it wants to remove
something - just leave him to remove. A lot of stand-alone packages
since 4.0 are moved either to kdebase or to other organized packages.
The successful migration with your Desktop settings is nearly
impossible. If you are used KMail, Akregator, Kopete, etc. on 4.0 you
probably need to set up again these accounts and configurations. Do not
try to hack configuration files, and copy the old ones to the new KDE
applications. They’ll be simply ignored. BTW, do not worry about this -
setting up again your KMail, Kopete, etc. accounts takes about 10
minutes. :wink:


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Ok, so what i’ve got is add these four repositories to Yast. But then
what? Do I just do a serach for any packages that contain “KDE” and
update them?


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Yast - Software Management
filter by repo
visit each in turn, start with 4.2 Desktop repo and select update all
in this list if newer ver avail from the packages tab along the top of
the screen.

Do this with all your new repo’s

then accept/apply

I just did it on my Laptop - now officially 4.2


Box: Linux 2.6.27.9-159 i686 | Fedora 10 | Gnome 2.24.2 | M2N4-SLI | AMD
64 X2 5200+ | nVidia 8500GT | 2GB RAM
Lap: openSUSE 11.1 | Celeron 550 | (KDE4.2.0)“82.1” | Intel 965 GM |
Lenovo R61e | 3GB RAM

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In YaST Software Management select ‘Repositories’, and at the top of the
list select ‘@System’ On the package list, click on the ‘Installed
Version’ bar, and then scroll down until you get to the blue ones, and
click away.

Cheers,

Rod


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Hi,

I added the four repositories to YAST and wanted to upgrade from KDE
4.1.3 to 4.2 (Opensuse 11.1).

I have following problem with dependencies:

It is suggest to downgrade some applications (e.g. Koffice,
PolicyKit…) no problem

It is suggest to deinstall following applications:
kde4-plasmoid-weather and kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher

I’am a little bit confused about deleting kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher,
this program sounds important.

Up to now, I did nothing (means I did’t upgrade).

Did somebody delete these files?

Greetings

Michael


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You can uninstall the all then get them again from the factory repo

/Geoff
michaelhust;1934606 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I added the four repositories to YAST and wanted to upgrade from KDE
> 4.1.3 to 4.2 (Opensuse 11.1).
>
> I have following problem with dependencies:
>
> It is suggest to downgrade some applications (e.g. Koffice,
> PolicyKit…) no problem
>
> It is suggest to deinstall following applications:
> kde4-plasmoid-weather and kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher
>
> I’am a little bit confused about deleting kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher,
> this program sounds important.
>
> Up to now, I did nothing (means I did’t upgrade).
>
> Did somebody delete these files?
>
> Greetings
>
> Michael


Core 2 Duo 3.16GHz, 4GB DDR2, 2.5TB, GeForce 7600 GS, OS 11.1
x86_64, KDE4.2 (82.1) ‘Smolt specs’ (http://tinyurl.com/9hgxhl)

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Hi,

the kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher is not in following repositories:

/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1/
/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/
/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/

Do you mean an other factory repository?

Greetings

Michael


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michaelhust;1934627 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher is not in following repositories:
>
> /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.1/
> /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/
> /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/
>
> Do you mean an other factory repository?
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Michael
kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher is provided by kdebase4-workspace.
Use the search in Software-Management. :wink:


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kde4-plasmoid jam up my desktop (4.2) (32-bit) and I can’t install more
plasmoid :\


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I upgraded successfully to 4.2, no problems. It went much smoother and
easier than I thought it would be.

Thanks for the help guys!

rotfl!


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jake45;1934667 Wrote:
> kde4-plasmoid jam up my desktop (4.2) (32-bit) and I can’t install more
> plasmoid :\Did you unlock the widgets?

Which plasmoid?

Did you delete the old /.kde4 folder before installing 4.2?


If your gecko is broken, you have a reptile dysfunction.:eek:

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…no, I do not it…
can I do it now after upgrading?


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jake45;1934963 Wrote:
> Yes, it is unlocked, yes, but… I do not delete /.kde4
> can I do it now after upgrading?
Log in with a console session. Type this (in your home directory):

Code:

mv .kde4/ .kde4old/



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Hi - I upgraded from 4.1.3 to 4.2 (in 11.1). Everything went fine and it
works lovely… Just, one problem:

  • in the KickOff Search, when I search for an application, it gives
    each result twice. (and both results run the same version of the same
    application… it’s just a bit annoying. Any idea how can i solve it?)


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Quicklauncer is just a plasmoid so you could do without it. You don’t
have to though, KDE4.2 has its own version.


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