KDE 4.2 RC1

Hi!
Im testing out KDE4.2 RC1. I uset the One-Click-Installation and solve
the dependency.
After reboot it boots into a complete black desktop.

After searching internett, i found a hint that tells us to rename the
/home/user/.kde4 to .kde4old
This .kde4-folder will be recreated during next boot and YES IT WORKS!

Now all my old desktop-settings are gone, but i will set it up againg.
The only problem is that all the Shortcut-buttons nest to the Start-meny
is gone.
And the buttons in Title-line is hidden. I have to move the pointer
over it to make the button show.
The title-line is a little to much transparent. How to adjust?

But its looks very nice!


ronnys

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ronnys;1929848 Wrote:
> Hi!
> The only problem is that all the Shortcut-buttons nest to the
> Start-meny is gone.
>
You can add the buttons you want by right-clicking on the entries in
the menu and choose “add to panel”.

ronnys;1929848 Wrote:
> And the buttons in Title-line is hidden. I have to move the pointer over
> it to make the button show.
> The title-line is a little to much transparent. How to adjust?
>
I don’t understand what you are trying to do. Could you explain it a
bit more?


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svnieuw;1929854 Wrote:
> You can add the buttons you want by right-clicking on the entries in the
> menu and choose “add to panel”.
> –
> Sorry! No “add to panel” under right-click!
>
> I don’t understand what you are trying to do. Could you explain it a
> bit more?

The titleline is there, but is like 90% transparant. The “Title” is
invisible and the close, minimiza, maximize-buttons are also invisible,
but is i move til mouse-pointer over the buttons, then it shows.

The buttons are there, but just invisible.

I would also like do reduce the transparanty for the title-line (Window
title-line).


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ref kde4.2 rc1

i had the same thing, a complete black screen… solution: remove the 2
plasma files in : /home/username/.kde4/share/config and reboot…
if you like gui, press control alt backspace… at the login screen,
look at the left bottom side, click on it and choose (i think the name
is) xice or something ending with the word ice, log into it and you can
delete those files with dolphin
enjoy
11.1/4.2


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ronnys;1929848 Wrote:
>
> And the buttons in Title-line is hidden. I have to move the pointer
> over it to make the button show.
> The title-line is a little to much transparent. How to adjust?

Are you using Emerald as window decorator? Emerald in KDE4 has some
issues.


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I’m a little confused with all this fancy things;

  • Compiz
  • Emerald
  • Plasma
  • GT

What is the different?

I use Compiz decoration! Well i think i use Compiz because i use
Compiz-manager to set window-decoration.

RS

freedguy;1930477 Wrote:
> Are you using Emerald as window decorator? Emerald in KDE4 has some
> issues.


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‘Compiz’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz) is a ‘Window Manager’
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager), to be exact, ‘Compositing
Window Manager’
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager).

It handles all fancy things except the window title bar and window
border.

‘Emerald’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_(window_decorator)) is
a ‘Window Decorator’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_decorator). It
handles the window titlebar and window border.

A lot of Emerald themes are available ‘here’
(http://tinyurl.com/b3a24q). You can install them by using Emerald Theme
Manager (install in YaST)

By default, ‘Metacity’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity) and
‘Kwin’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwin) are the Window managers for
Gnome and KDE respectively.

‘Plasma’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(KDE)) is just a new
desktop interface for KDE 4 which can hold Plasmoids (or widgets). The
Plasma is resolution-free and the plasmoids are completely scalable.


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ok, SOLVED.
Install issue:
After trying a lot of ways, deleted plasma files included, I found out
that the only working solution is make a new login account, with all
consequences.

Emerald issues:

  • Since the Compiz option under “Personal Settings” disappeared I start
    it by script in ~/username/.kde4/Autostart.

  • Under “Personal Settings”-advanced-advanced user settings-autostart I
    assign this script the option “pre-kde startup”

  • I activate “enable desktop effects” and deselect all effects, except
    login and logout.

  • Example for the script
    Script mystart.sh, with executable permission

reset compiz

#!/bin/bash
fusion-icon &

  • Further Emerald issue:
    some apps in full screen modus kill emerald.
    In this case, the command “emerald --replace &” will do.

NOTES:
The impressive amount of crossed dependencies in the repos talk to me
about a huge effort to get this desktop done in some way. The context
menus, really uncontextual, are very limited. Many basic applications
are still unfinished. I wouldn’t call it rc1. However, we can use it for
tasks at family level. I didn’t find kde 4.2 rc1 worth the install work,
still keeping the last working version: a real rarity, I am disposed to
sell you it at discount price :).


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I don’t understand why do you need compiz & emerald under KDE4? KWin has
everything compiz has, work in similar way.
For 3.5, yes, compiz for me was really good. No need for it in 4.2, I
find it faster.


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beli0135;1931845 Wrote:
> KWin has everything compiz has, work in similar way. Except for emerald, and there’s 5 themes for kwin/KDE4 on kde-look.org.
(Bespin seems to be missing there though)


‘Special effects’ (http://tiny.cc/Y0T) ← KDE 4.2 Showing off
More KDE → ’ PINK KDE’ (http://tiny.cc/v30h)
‘HQ Pink KDE’ (http://tiny.cc/R4P)

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black screen, no interaction possible ? All due to broken kdebase4
packages in KDE4/Factory repo. Just update once more and trouble’s gone.


Machines: AMD Athlon X2 6GHz, 8 GB DDR2-800, 1,5 TB diskspace, EVGA
9800GT, opensuse 11.1, KDE4-Factory - ASUS A7T laptop, 2 GB opensuse
11.1 KDE4-Factory

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Hi!
Compiz and Emerald is of course mostly for fun. Its nice looking and
impression to see all effects.

But you say i really dont need Compis or Emerald in KDE4.2
Well KDE4.2 RC1 do make the desktop look like Emerald, but its Compiz
who make all the funny effects.
Do you meen KWin do the same?

RS

beli0135;1931845 Wrote:
> I don’t understand why do you need compiz & emerald under KDE4? KWin has
> everything compiz has, work in similar way.
> For 3.5, yes, compiz for me was really good. No need for it in 4.2, I
> find it faster.


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Yap, 4.2 RC1 has them, if not all, then almost all + some new.
Go to Configure Desktop -> Desktop

in General tab, enable desktop effects, and choose window switching and
desktop switchin effect (I like cover and cube).
Then on “All effects” tab, choose desired effects. List is pretty
impressive.

Also, since compiz made me used to ctrl+ left/right to switch cube, I
had to put those shortcuts in global shortcut, and now cube works as in
Compiz.


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SOLVED
I have to correct was I wrote in the precedent reply. Of course, it is
not necessary to delete the whole user folder. So,
logout and again login as root in a non KDE4 session.
from there install from the repos you selected the KDE4 desktop.
In your /home/“your_username” directory delete the folder .kde4
In your /root directory delete the folder .kde4
login again as user.
Done
NB
On January 26:
The rc1 version is still too buggy for being useful.


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