KDE 4.11 upgrade on openSUSE 12.3

After changing the KDE openSUSE repositories from 4.10 to 4.11 many packages that where in the 4.10 repository are now missing from the 4.11 repository. Those packages are available as downgrade from the openSUSE OSS repository.

YaST Sceenshot of these many packages:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-lDdSLkpJa5UUZaSHVab3dKM28

Did anyone upgrade from 4.10 to 4.11 successfully using the openSUSE KDE repository? In that case what did you do with these missing packages?

I am a bit unsure to downgrade so many packages with the OSS repository.

No problem found going from 4.10 to 4.11, on pc’s or laptops

those shown in red were not interpreted as downgrades,
only different numbering systems,
looking at the issue date of the version change is a better indication

NB. openSUSE, KDE, Tumbleweed, Packman … etc have large number differences in
versions to avoid potential overlapping

Today I update to KDE 4.11. Currently, I have a problem with: plasma-desktop and kopete

What I find strange is that some previous KDE packages in the 4.10 repository is no longer provided in the 4.11 repository.

Which ones do you mean exactly?
Some got superseeded by other packages, some you should downgrade to the standard repo’s versions, some may have been missed.

I personally don’t use the KDE:Release:* repos anymore at the moment, so I just don’t know.
But I might be able to give clues… :wink:

And which problem exactly?

@wolfi323

are you booting to plasma from the desktop manager login screen?

if yes, try renaming directory /home/<username>/.kde4/ then reboot,
(reset of desktop will be necessary)
if this does not help change back to original name

hth

???
My system is running fine (12.3 with KDF).

I’m just trying to help here, as you are. :wink:

There where many packages. They are listed in the screenshot I posted above.

Some packages where easy to switch to KDE (downgrade as well as upgrade). Many packages that was in the KDE 4.10 repository are no longer in the KDE 4.11 repository and thus must be downgraded with the packages in the openSUSE OSS repository. Why aren’t all the packages that KDE requires within the KDE repository anymore?

Examples.
Virtuoso
PackageKit
k3b
kaffeine
kmymoney
krename
liblastfm1 (needed by amarok)
libredland0 (needed by several KDE packages
etc.

Just downgrade them, they’re the same versions anyway.
And some of them are not even in [noparse]KDE:Release:410[/noparse] either. :wink:

etc.

For “etc.” I cannot tell, but I guess it’s safe to downgrade them all as well.
If you get conflicts then, better ask again with the exact conflict message. :wink:

I just checked. All of them are in KDE 4.10 repository
Index of /repositories/KDE:/Release:/410/openSUSE_12.3/x86_64

Downgrade should be no problem, but I find it curious that they are in 4.10, but not 4.11 repo.

You’re right. Sorry.
I did check, but my internet connection played tricks on me (heavy thunderstorms here…)
But as I said, they’re the same versions anyway…

Downgrade should be no problem, but I find it curious that they are in 4.10, but not 4.11 repo.

Because KR10 was built against older (not supported anymore) openSUSE versions, where those packages were too old to build against.
For 12.3 just ignore them… :wink:

I run into the same issue, but not sure about phonon. In KDE 4.10, there has been an updated Phonon GStreamer package, which gets to be downgraded when switching back to OSS.

I would say, downgrade that as well.

I don’t know if that was just forgotten or omitted on purpose…

The package’s changelog contains this:

- Update to 4.6.3
  * bugfix release
  * Increased compatability with Phonon versions older than 4.7
  * Proper setting of the user-agent for HTTP streams
  * Abortion of in-progress fades when a fader effect is asked to
    fade again
  * Less CPU hogging when streaming
  * Fixed playback of discs on multi-drive setups
  * Much improved non-gapless playback for shorter sound files
  * Graceful handling of a broken setup that causes a failed
    gst_init() call

Most of the items can be ignored I think (like f.e. compatibility with phonon < 4.7).
But IMHO if you think this update is worth having, it should be reported at http://bugzilla.novell.com/ and released as online update for 12.3 (and maybe for 12.2 as well).

The kcrash file of plasma-desktop:

Application: Plasma Desktop Shell (plasma-desktop), signal: Segmentation fault - Pastebin.com

Looks like the known crash on 32bit systems:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=829298
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322283

To fix it, do this:

  • close the crash report
  • Press Alt+F2 and enter “killall plasma-desktop” to prevent plasma-desktop from restarting and crashing again
  • Press Alt+F2 again and enter “plasma-desktop” to start it, it should work then
  • Remove the launchers for the webbrowser and filemanager from the taskbar (right-click on each of them and select “Remove this launcher”)

It should not crash then anymore, even on next login.

Thank you very much

Hi.
I have a problem after updating KDE to 4.11. I set in preferences keyboard layout switch key (Left Win), but it doesn’t work, it switching always only with Ctrl+Shift.
When I right click on tray icon of layout and press preferences it shows an error (http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5862/hvpo.png). But if I go there through main menu it shows preferences, saves changes, but again work only with Ctrl+Shift.

don’t ‘downgrade’ …
packages like k3b (which caught my eye looking at DJViking](http://forums.opensuse.org/members/djviking.html)'s org screen capture.
I added these repos to YaST2:

Index of /repositories/KDE:/Release:/411/openSUSE_12.3
Index of /repositories/KDE:/UpdatedApps/openSUSE_12.3
Index of /repositories/KDE:/Extra/KDE_Release_411_openSUSE_12.3

I still had some issues with calligra and a couple others that were not in 4.10 distro, but have dependencies on KDE core files and libs… but i’m working on it.

i’m going to try zypper too.

Landis.

you also ‘need’ Index of /repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_12.3

Landis.