> KDE 3.5 will not be included on 11.2 “official” media or in the release
> repository for 11.2, but the community certainly has the option of
> creating KDE 3.5 packages in the build service, and creating live CDs
> with KDE 3.5 packages for 11.2.
What’s everyone’s views on this? I personally think that 3.5.x should
stay till 12.x.
I think it is the right decision because kde 3.x will be discontinued
and the suse team has then to fix the bugs and security issues all alone
by themselves. Be happy that it is included in 11.1 because other
distributors already removed it
>
> Hi,
>
> I think it is the right decision because kde 3.x will be discontinued
> and the suse team has then to fix the bugs and security issues all alone
> by themselves. Be happy that it is included in 11.1 because other
> distributors already removed it
>
> Have a lot of fun
>
>
Though I’m using kde4 I still run some kde3 apps and I think it’s too early to drop kde3, though at some point it will be time - maybe 11.3
Of course what does “drop” mean? Will there still be the kdelibs just no desktop?
–
Suse 11.0 x64, Kde 4.2beta (unstable repo), Opera 9.x weekly
I think it’s ok. At this point in time KDE4.1.3 is, to my eyes, not
mature enough and lacks few functions 3.5 has, but many of them are now
included in the alpha version of 4.2. By June 2009 (release of 11.2,
probably), KDE4 will be a lot more mature and will most probably include
all functions that were in 3.5.
I hope.
Also, many packages are ported to KDE4, some stuff are still lagging
(like icon sets and that stuff, but that is not maintained by opensuse),
but next summer it will be a lot better!
In June 2009, it will be 16 months since the first release of KDE4,
which then should take over 3.5 as Monex said.
–
Frank
openSUSE KDE 10.3 64-bits
Intel Q6600 64-bits QuadCore G0 Revision
nVidia Geforce 8600 GT
ASUS P5K-E mobo + 4GB RAM
I just hope that some apps will still be available. Like Amarok 1.4.x
(which is not a KDE app, but of course uses KDE3 libs). I tried Amarok
2, but I dislike it. I can’t even get close to making it as useful as
1.4 is to me. Maybe someone will fork 1.4 for bugfixes.
For me there are two reasons why this idea, if it is indeed true, it is
a good idea:
Firstly, there must be a considerable overhead in supporting two
versions of KDE. Therefore I would prefer that all the development
effort went into the latest KDE 4.1 and 4.2 releases, rather than
maintaining support for the legacy version.
Secondly, in order to attract more and more users to Linux, the version
of KDE supplied must include as much eye candy, 3-D effects and bells
and whistles as possible in order to complete with Windows Vista and 7
and the features such as the sidebar, Aero transparency and new Windows
7 features. This means that many potential new Linux users would not be
interested in using the KDE 3.5 series, so effort to continue to support
it becomes less valuable.
rjwilmsi wrote:
> For me there are two reasons why this idea, if it is indeed true, it is
> a good idea:
> Firstly, there must be a considerable overhead in supporting two
> versions of KDE. Therefore I would prefer that all the development
> effort went into the latest KDE 4.1 and 4.2 releases, rather than
> maintaining support for the legacy version.
> Secondly, in order to attract more and more users to Linux, the version
> of KDE supplied must include as much eye candy, 3-D effects and bells
> and whistles as possible in order to complete with Windows Vista and 7
> and the features such as the sidebar, Aero transparency and new Windows
> 7 features. This means that many potential new Linux users would not be
> interested in using the KDE 3.5 series, so effort to continue to support
> it becomes less valuable.
>
With the assumption that 4.x will be stable, I can live with that (so
far 4.1.x seems decidedly unstable on my system). However, I would like
to see two installation options:
1 KDE4 minimum gloss
2 KDE4 with eye candy and all the other (unnecessary) bells and whistles
That way, I can install without having to go through the lists to get
rid of all the stuff I will never use but was forced to download
–
PeeGee
Asus M2V-MX SE, AMD LE1640, openSuSE 11.0 x86-64/XP Home dual boot
Asus M2NPV-VM, AMD 64X2 3800+, openSuSE 10.3 x86-64/XP Home dual boot
I don’t really see a problem. That’s 6 months from now, and KDE 4 is
already solid. The only thing missing is features that we had in KDE
3.5, so right now KDE 4 is a lot like explorer. I think the developers
can add a lot of those features and more in 6 months.
The KDE Project has already stopped working on 3.5 to the best of my
knowledge. Asking our KDE folks to maintain two branches of KDE - the
cutting edge / development branch + a dead branch with no maintenance /
bugfixes from upstream, is unreasonable.
If the community steps up to maintain 3.5 or even continue development,
then we could revisit the possibility of including 3.5 in further
releases – but as things stand now, putting the entire responsibility
on our small team of KDE folks is not reasonable for 11.2, much less
until 12x.
Speaking of features: I’m afraid if they’re not added (and added quick),
KDE may face the fate of Vista, namely, many users dropping it for a
better desktop environment. KDE has been overlooking the fact that
functionality should come first, not eye candy. I for one love KDE,
but if some of the features I heavily use were to be dropped, I’d start
seriously reconsidering Gnome.
– http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ Even if free software were crap, it should still get our preference
over the non-free crap secreted by IT corporations.
-A free rephrasing of RMS-
I was rather anxious to use KDE 4.
Many applications lack the features of it’s KDE 3 counter part.
I gave it a try 3 days ago and didn’t end up reinstalling itrotfl!
It can be considered a great success.
P.S. I ended up uninstalling all KDE 3 apps and leaving only KDE 4.
P.S.2 If You want Your KDE 4 fly don’t use Compiz with it.
–
If builders built homes the same way programmers make applications then
one woodpecker would destroy whole civilization.
Unconfined wrote:
> Source: ‘openSUSE News » KDE in openSUSE 11.1 and Beyond’
> (http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/09/kde-in-opensuse-111-and-beyond/)
>
>> KDE 3.5 will not be included on 11.2 “official” media or in the release
>> repository for 11.2, but the community certainly has the option of
>> creating KDE 3.5 packages in the build service, and creating live CDs
>> with KDE 3.5 packages for 11.2.
>
> What’s everyone’s views on this? I personally think that 3.5.x should
> stay till 12.x.
Well, given that 11.2 is 6 months away or so, and KDE 4 will continue to
improve, I figure it’ll be fine. And if it isn’t there’s always Debian
Lenny. <g>
