Just tried AmaroK again!! shutter

Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but seriously i can’t understand why AmaroK is so popular.
I left it a while ago and when i found Clementine, it was exactly what i wanted. I can’t understand how anyone can navigate there collection with ease in AmaroK; i think it’s such a horrible interface in regards to the play list; i personally think it’s dumbfounding.

On 4/19/2012 11:26 PM, knightron wrote:
>
> Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but seriously i can’t understand
> why AmaroK is so popular.
> I left it a while ago and when i found Clementine, it was exactly what
> i wanted. I can’t understand how anyone can navigate there collection
> with ease in AmaroK; i think it’s such a horrible interface in regards
> to the play list; i personally think it’s dumbfounding.
>
>

I use Amarok on both systems. Not sure if there are other opensource
offsprings that also work on Windows, but Amarok does.
To me its what i need and i can work with it. And yes, its a personal
opinion.
Never understood why people don’t like it. But i have not tried Clementine.
There are some elements i like about Banshee but others i don’t.


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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 05:09:15 +0530, JoergJaeger
<JoergJaeger@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> On 4/19/2012 11:26 PM, knightron wrote:
>>
>> Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but seriously i can’t understand
>> why AmaroK is so popular.
>> I left it a while ago and when i found Clementine, it was exactly what
>> i wanted. I can’t understand how anyone can navigate there collection
>> with ease in AmaroK; i think it’s such a horrible interface in regards
>> to the play list; i personally think it’s dumbfounding.
>>
>>
>
> I use Amarok on both systems. Not sure if there are other opensource
> offsprings that also work on Windows, but Amarok does.
> To me its what i need and i can work with it. And yes, its a personal
> opinion.
> Never understood why people don’t like it. But i have not tried
> Clementine.
> There are some elements i like about Banshee but others i don’t.
>

i think it often depends on what you get used to, managed to get
comfortable with; any change from that is easily perceived as bad.

i didn’t use amarok 1.4 much (that’s more or less the present clementine),
so when i started using amarok 2.x, it wasn’t so much of a change from
what i used to do.

in my experience & opinion, amarok 2.x works well; it picks up all my
media files on indexing, and since i don’t need to see lyrics and cover
pictures updated in real time, i’ve disabled the middle part of the
default UI, i.e., where cover, lyrics, and wikipedia entries are shown.
amarok 2 doesn’t hog resources, and since i’m using dev. versions,
sometimes more tricky features like podcasts or internet streams work
better, sometimes not so well, which is to be expected.

i like it well, and for others, clementine is still around. don’t see any
reason to complain, really.


phani.

Amarok looks good and works well for me

On 2012-04-21 06:36, caf4926 wrote:
>
> Amarok looks good and works well for me

It continuously uses a lot of cpu in my machine. Once it kept one core at
100% for hours.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Don’t recall ever seeing that.
Did you debug?

On 2012-04-21 15:06, caf4926 wrote:

> Don’t recall ever seeing that.
> Did you debug?

No.

I use an mysql database, and it was the mysql process which went to the roof.

I have started it again, and “amarokcollection” is quite busy, and making
the disk busy - and it is minimized, and my collection has not been
modified at all.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2012-04-21 15:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I have started it again, and “amarokcollection” is quite busy, and making
> the disk busy - and it is minimized, and my collection has not been
> modified at all.
>


>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
> 22708 cer       20   0  175m 110m 5596 R   89  1.4  14:30.25 amarokcollectio


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2012-04-21 15:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2012-04-21 15:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I have started it again, and “amarokcollection” is quite busy, and making
>> the disk busy - and it is minimized, and my collection has not been
>> modified at all.
>>
>
>


>>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>> 22708 cer       20   0  175m 110m 5596 R   89  1.4  14:30.25 amarokcollectio
> 

So, I finally tell amarok to exit, and then it crashes with a bug report
dialog.


Ejecutable: amarok PID: 22605 Señal: Segmentation fault (11)

It requests to send the info somewhere, I say yes, it says it wants to
download debug info, and to that I say no, and then it aborts reporting.

I’m not really interested.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:58:06 +0530, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> On 2012-04-21 15:06, caf4926 wrote:
>
>> Don’t recall ever seeing that.
>> Did you debug?
>
> No.
>
> I use an mysql database, and it was the mysql process which went to the
> roof.
>
> I have started it again, and “amarokcollection” is quite busy, and making
> the disk busy - and it is minimized, and my collection has not been
> modified at all.
>

you mean an external MySQL DB, as in settings -> configure amarok ->
database? i never tried that. don’t know what the alternative is, SQlite
or something else.

i use external MySQL in digikam without problems, in fact it’s faster than
the (default) SQLite alternative. perhaps amarok has problems with the
MySQL option, even though i haven’t heard of that before. why not try
without that external DB?


phani.

On 2012-04-21 16:20, phanisvara das wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:58:06 +0530, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

> i use external MySQL in digikam without problems, in fact it’s faster than
> the (default) SQLite alternative. perhaps amarok has problems with the
> MySQL option, even though i haven’t heard of that before. why not try
> without that external DB?

Too much work, considering that I use gnome mostly. I don’t know that this
could be done easily.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:18:07 +0530, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Too much work, considering that I use gnome mostly. I don’t know that
> this could be done easily.

i haven’t done this, but it looks as if it’s just changing the option in
settings -> amarok config -> database, perhaps coming up with a name for
the SQLite file, but probably not.

if you can live without amarok, or with a CPU-guzzling one, no need, of
course.


phani.

On 2012-04-21 20:59, phanisvara das wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:18:07 +0530, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

> i haven’t done this, but it looks as if it’s just changing the option in
> settings -> amarok config -> database, perhaps coming up with a name for
> the SQLite file, but probably not.

Ok, did that. Surprisingly, even after a restart, amarok remembers the
entire collection. How can that be, if it resides in an mysql database?

Amarokcollection is running. No, two such processes are running. The disk
is kept busy. Apparently, using mysql-workbench, it is not mysql. But still
two amarokcollection processes are running - no, one just dissapeared, and
the other one is at 80% or more cpu. They were running at 9% a minute ago.

Amarok remains broken. :frowning:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2012-04-21 21:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Amarok remains broken. :frowning:

And it crashes when I request it to quit, segmentation fault.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

I spend a lot of time in my car and it’s my great pleasure to play my iPhone with its 1200 tunes (and growing) while I drive, with playlists that I change all the time to match my mood. So a well managed tunes library is very important to me. It’s been a continuing thorn in me that I cannot manage this stuff outside of windows and apple technology.

When this thread started I had just bought an Android phone to replace my iPhone. I finally decided I must, despite all odds, I must export my iTunes library (1200 tunes) to Linux, reclaim it from Apple, and manage it in Linux and sync it to the android phone in such a fashion that the tunes so synced would be playable on Android in my car. I tried and tried with Amarok, but it wouldn’t manage the tunes the way I wanted, nor generate sensible playlists that work on Android (currently I have winamp on Android but will experiment with others as time goes by).

I’m pretty good at stuff like this – but I couldn’t get the Linux/Android/playlist trio to work nicely, we’re talking playlists hundreds long. The problem was Amarok. It didn’t occur to me to try anything else – well I did try DeadBeef but that didn’t work for me either.

Finally in frustration I installed the Gnome app RhythmBox – how good is that!!! WOW!

Now I have the whole system working smoothly, auto sync over samba, same playlists, same file-tree structure on both devices, thank you RhythmBox for allowing the library to be visualised and managed properly.

Amarok is good for many folks, but in this instance RhythmBox saved the day for me.

> Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but seriously i can’t understand
> why AmaroK is so popular.
> I left it a while ago and when i found Clementine, it was exactly what
> i wanted. I can’t understand how anyone can navigate there collection
> with ease in AmaroK; i think it’s such a horrible interface in regards
> to the play list; i personally think it’s dumbfounding.

After the extraordinary 1.4, version 2 was quite a let down for me. Haven’t
used Amarok much since then.

I don’t know how much this’ll help but have any of you tried musique? It’s in the KDE Extra repos.

> I don’t know how much this’ll help but have any of you tried musique?
> It’s in the KDE Extra repos.

Hmm. Looks nice, I’ll have to try it out.
Thanks.

Havent used Amarok since 1.4, qmmp and vlc does the work but Mistique seams relly good.
I’ll give it a go against 2.0

lately, for the last week, I’ve been investigating Clementine, which is derived from Amarok, with a different look and layout, and (for me) much more manageable playlist facilities. I think I will keep it in preference to RhythmBox (nothing wrong with RhythmBox, great app).