Just to confirm, TW does zero auto updates correct?

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Hi all

Sorry if this was asked before. But I just want to confirm 100% that Tumbleweed will do ZERO auto updates.

The only way to update Tumbleweed is to run the zypper command manually

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zypper is of course NOT the only way. YaST > Software > Software Mnager can do the same for you.
And an interface to PackageKit like Apper might be able to do the same. IIRC you can even configure Apper to do it without your intervention. But you are the one to configure/use these tools. And you can of course call zypper from a crontab entry to do it “automaticaly” when you want. It is all up to you.

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Thanks, Henk. So the default is that nothing is automatically done? Thus I won’t get a nasty Cell phone account if I used my phone for thetering while away on business with Tumbleweed?

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I can confirm that as a regular user of Tumbleweed.

I also note among your other posted questions that someone has suggested the average download per week is 1GB. I believe that figure is too high for example a default KDE installation. The average could be nearer 500MB or less, but I can discuss that in the other thread.

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Are you realy sure about the reasons you have to go for Tumbleweed instead of the basic and stable (and possibly well known by you) standard openSUSE release (like 13.1 or 13.2)?

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Thanks consused for confirming that behavior.

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Hi Henk , yes I am. With Plasma 5.3+ and GNOME 3.16+ so many new and useful features are introduced with each point release of the DE’s that the fixed release versions like 13.2 becomes ‘old’ very quickly if they don’t update the included DE’s.

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OK, I am more of the school: when it isn’t broken, don’t touch it :wink:

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Since I am about to “zypper -v dup” on Tumbleweed for the latest snapshot, here is the lower part of zyppers detailed proposal:

------< snipped >------ 
  openSUSE-release               20150516-1.3 -> 20150518-1.2 
  openSUSE-release-ftp           20150516-1.3 -> 20150518-1.2 
  phalanx                        23-1.2 -> 24-1.1             
  python-kde4                    4.14.3-2.1 -> 4.14.3-3.1     
  python-kde4-akonadi            4.14.3-2.1 -> 4.14.3-3.1     
  python-kde4-khtml              4.14.3-2.1 -> 4.14.3-3.1     
  python-kde4-knewstuff          4.14.3-2.1 -> 4.14.3-3.1     
  python-kde4-phonon             4.14.3-2.1 -> 4.14.3-3.1     
  python-kde4-plasma             4.14.3-2.1 -> 4.14.3-3.1     
  python-simplejson              3.5.2-3.2 -> 3.6.5-1.1       
  subversion                     1.8.13-2.1 -> 1.8.13-3.1     
  subversion-bash-completion     1.8.13-2.1 -> 1.8.13-3.1     
  typelib-1_0-GdkPixbuf-2_0      2.31.3-1.1 -> 2.31.4-1.1     
  typelib-1_0-Gtk-3_0            3.16.2-1.1 -> 3.16.3-1.1     


The following product is going to be upgraded:
  openSUSE Tumbleweed  20150516-0 -> 20150518-0 


59 packages to upgrade, 2 new. 
Overall download size: 36.3 MiB. Already cached: 0 B  After the operation,  
additional 2.0 MiB will be used. 
**Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y):**

Looking at the summary, that is obviously a smaller example, after the big one for plasma 5 and kernel update last weekend.

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Thanks consused, I will download and install Tumbleweed this weekend. I really appreciate your help and information.

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You are using Gnome. I think it downloads, but does not install, updates. You may need to find how to turn that off (i.e. turn off the automatic download).

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Thanks nrickert, will look into that.

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On 2015-05-20 10:46, georgelappies wrote:

> Thanks, Henk. So the default is that nothing is automatically done? Thus
> I won’t get a nasty Cell phone account if I used my phone for thetering
> while away on business with Tumbleweed?

Warning: the KDE/Gnome applets (apper et friends) will not automatically
install updates. But they certainly will check if they exist! That’s
some megabytes (the exact amount depends on how many repos).

So you must remove them, in any distribution, not only TW, if you are on
a metered/limited connection.

Even if you can afford the limited download involved by checking, it is
pointless as you can not install them. And by mistake you might click on
“accept” and it would start.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

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Thanks Carlos, how would one go about removing them correctly in GNOME?

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On 2015-05-20 13:36, nrickert wrote:
>
> georgelappies;2710920 Wrote:
>> Sorry if this was asked before. But I just want to confirm 100% that
>> Tumbleweed will do ZERO auto updates.
>
> You are using Gnome. I think it downloads, but does not install,
> updates. You may need to find how to turn that off (i.e. turn off the
> automatic download).

Oh, yes, I forgot that one. :frowning:

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

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On 2015-05-20 14:06, georgelappies wrote:

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> Thanks Carlos, how would one go about removing them correctly in GNOME?

Somebody else better verify, I don’t have TW installed.

As I recall, you have to remove apper, some (not all) of packagekit, and
something else I don’t remember the name because I removed long ago. The
gnome applet.

You can’t remove all package kit libraries, because other system
components depend on them. Just not having the applets is enough.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)