Java for internet banking

franck210883 · October 2, 2011, 1:20pm

Hi,
I have Opensuse 11.4 gnome 32 bits.
I need to access this site (internet banking) : https://www.mojebanka.cz/InternetBanking/
Their wisard configuration is not working and shows : No supported method running Java applet found

Configuration wizard
PC configuration test
Operating system Detected operating system: Linux OK
Internet browser Detected internet browser: Mozilla Firefox 7.0 OK
Cookies Cookies enabled OK
Time settings Local computer time and server time are in sync.
Current date and time of the computer: dim. 02 oct. 2011 13:18:23 CEST OK
Java vendor No supported method running Java applet found NOOK
Java in the internet browser Java enabled in the browser OK

ANy idea of what’s wrong ?
Thanx !

franck210883 · October 2, 2011, 1:26pm

I installed Sun Java and updated it with

zypper in -t patch java-1_6_0-sun-4694

As in : Mise a jour de sécurité sur java et openssl

franck210883 · October 23, 2011, 5:28pm

Up, please !

martin_helm · October 23, 2011, 5:42pm

franck210883 wrote:

>
> Up, please !
>
Your previous post looked like you solved the problem.
What you have to to is to change the java plugin to the sun java plugin.
Most easy solution:
Remove icedtea-web, java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin and openjdk
Install java-1_6_0-sun-plugin
Restart your browser and test
Hope that helps.

DenverD · October 23, 2011, 6:38pm

On 10/23/2011 05:42 PM, martin_helm wrote:

> change the java plugin to the sun java plugin.

i am NOT sure, but i think you must have both of these

java-1_6_0-sun
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin

find them in YaST > Software Management

AND (as martin_helm mentions) remove all openjdk (using YaST), very
important…then restart browser and go…(it should work: ServerSpy
tells me your bank uses IBM_HTTP_Server (like mine does) and it should
work…some times the banks get one version of Java behind so, if yours
doesn’t work after the above then find the page on your banks site where
it says the exact requirements…you may have to go back to a little
older java…

–
DD
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

franck210883 · October 25, 2011, 2:12am

Thank you for your answers (and sorry about the misunderstanding).
I did this :

Remove icedtea-web, java-1_6_0-openjdk-plugin and openjdk
Install java-1_6_0-sun-plugin

It seems that I need to install java-1_6_0-sun to have the plugin. java-1_6_0-sun was already installed.
I removed all openjdk through the Yast
All this doesn’t make it work.
On my bank’s site, it says that I need the Java Sun version 1.6.0_24 : Install correct version of Java Virtual Machine - Komerční banka
Everything seems correct, but nothing is working.

martin_helm · October 25, 2011, 3:04am

You should have 1.6.0_26 now. You can verify that in a terminal by typing


java -version

otherwise I can only guess that something windows specific is used since
that link you gave only contains instructions for windows, but of course I
do not know.
You can go to the following link and check which java version you have in
the browser
http://javatester.org/version.html

DenverD · October 25, 2011, 9:48am

On 10/25/2011 03:04 AM, martin_helm wrote:
> You should have 1.6.0_26 now.

i don’t think so…the OP’s post says the bank site says it requires
“1.6.0_24” and i’ve had to backlevel before to meet a Danish bank site
demands to run a specific version

i’d say the OP needs to make sure that the SUN _24 is only java
installed, then dump all browser cookies and history related to the
bank, shut down the browser, reboot and pray…

–
DD
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

martin_helm · October 25, 2011, 12:38pm

DenverD wrote:

> On 10/25/2011 03:04 AM, martin_helm wrote:
>> You should have 1.6.0_26 now.
>
> i don’t think so…the OP’s post says the bank site says it requires
> “1.6.0_24” and i’ve had to backlevel before to meet a Danish bank site
> demands to run a specific version
>
> i’d say the OP needs to make sure that the SUN _24 is only java
> installed, then dump all browser cookies and history related to the
> bank, shut down the browser, reboot and pray…
>
That would be the worst case, but since the link on their page links to a
java 1.6.0_24 32bit for windows which is hosted on their site this can be
true and you will have trouble to download any 1.6.0_24 from oracle for
anything else since they (oracle) do not provide access to former builds
directly.

Though I can imagine you are right DenverD I have a really hard time to
imagine what explicit feature a java programmer (I am one) could use which
is not available or broken in a previous 1.6 build but also no longer
working in the newer ones, I just think if they really test on a special
build number (and not on a build number or higher) their software is such a
crap that I never would use that for banking, sorry to say it so blunt.

DenverD · October 25, 2011, 12:49pm

On 10/25/2011 12:38 PM, martin_helm wrote:
> I just think if they really test on a special
> build number (and not on a build number or higher) their software is such a
> crap that I never would use that for banking, sorry to say it so blunt.

i do not disagree…and i dropped that bank (Denmark’s largest), and
moved all my banking business to another…

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

franck210883 · November 2, 2011, 12:26am

Thank you again.
My java version :

java version "1.6.0_29"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.4-b02, mixed mode)

And I have no idea how to install the 1.6.0_24 version…

Is leaving this **** software the only solution ?

martin_helm · November 2, 2011, 12:48am

franck210883 wrote:

>
> Thank you again.
> My java version :
>
> java version “1.6.0_29”
> Java™ SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11)
> Java HotSpot™ Server VM (build 20.4-b02, mixed mode)
> And I have no idea how to install the 1.6.0_24 version…
>
> Is leaving this **** software the only solution ?
>
If even that does not work, the only solution which comes to my mind is
running an browser in a virtual machine with windows in it and the java from
the bank or to try installing a browser in wine and install the windows java
from the banks link also in wine.

DenverD · November 2, 2011, 8:07am

On 11/02/2011 12:36 AM, franck210883 wrote:
> Is leaving this **** software the only solution ?

do as you wish…what i did was dump my **** bank which required me to
run MS-Windows and their ***** proprietary implementation of java…

i walked across the street to a competing bank which had the good sense
to use banking software which was both more secure and allowed me to be…

opened an account, bought some of their bank stock and am VERY happy i
made the switch…not only can i bank securely using my chosen
operating system, but their fees are lower, their interest on savings
and certificates of deposit higher and i my investment in their stock
quadrupled in ten years.

sometimes one gets lucky, sometimes one makes the wrong (imo) decision
and jumps from secure, dependable, predictable software to Micro**** so
everything is ‘easy’…

go for it, if that is what you want…but, you need not denigrate Linux
as you flee for ‘easy’ and insecure…

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

franck210883 · November 26, 2011, 12:49pm

When I wrote : this ***** software, I meant the bank site, not linux.
In fact, I am very satisfied by linux. Plus I have the feeling to do something right by using it.
And your helping me for this problem makes me feel part of a community moved by a noble philosophy.
In this situation, I would never start to have doubts towards linux because it is not compatible with a french bank software…
Thank you again !

martin_helm · November 26, 2011, 2:31pm

Am 26.11.2011 12:56, schrieb franck210883:
>
> When I wrote : this ***** software, I meant the bank site, not linux.
> In fact, I am very satisfied by linux. Plus I have the feeling to do
> something right by using it.
> And your helping me for this problem makes me feel part of a community
> moved by a noble philosophy.
> In this situation, I would never start to have doubts towards linux
> because it is not compatible with a french bank software…
> Thank you again !
>
>
I want just to add that that I use a java software to do my online
banking from linux (that will not help you it is a german software)
which works great with openjdk and has absolutely no problems. I just
mention it to show that it is not a law of nature what you see with your
bank.

Did you try external software like kmymoney or gnucash for online
banking? Maybe that is an option for you?

quinness · December 22, 2011, 5:00pm

Thanks to this information NORDEA bank in Norway (and probably Sweden) work. Thanks again.