I am a Java Developer and I wonder why in all Distributions I never can
get the latest Eclipse IDE in a package. OpenSuse proved 3.4.2 but the
current release is already 3.5.1.
I mean Eclipse is a huge product with a lot of testing already involved,
so a release is stable. Why are there no actual packages available? I
dont want to work with a 1.5 year old version. But ok, I am already used
to download this and drop in my home folder.
And the second thing is the Maven-Buildtool. There is no package
available at all in OpenSuse. This is a very important tool and since
you run it quite often with some scripts and so on it would be nice if I
wouldnt have to configure this by myself (setting path variables and so on).
JAVA_HOME is not set automatically. I have to modify the etc/profile
myself. Even worse, some tools I need to run some special tasks, namely
schemagen and xjc cannot be resolved. They are part of Java 6 which is
installed and the tools are in the installation folder, but they havent
been moved to /usr/bin (like it is done for java and javac command).
I was planning to use this distro for working because it is known to be
very stabel, its nicely polished, and I had good experience running a
server with opensuse 10 at my parents. But if I need half a day just to
setup some stupid variables, move commands around and so on…
I mean, this shouldnt be a big deal and as a user I expect these common
things to be in place.
Sorry for all my complaints, but this is going to waste a lot of my
time. If I am wrong and just oversaw something feel free to correct me
and I will take it all back
Am 18.10.2009 14:14, schrieb Marco:
> Hi
>
> I am a Java Developer and I wonder why in all Distributions I never can
> get the latest Eclipse IDE in a package. OpenSuse proved 3.4.2 but the
> current release is already 3.5.1.
>
> I mean Eclipse is a huge product with a lot of testing already involved,
> so a release is stable. Why are there no actual packages available? I
> dont want to work with a 1.5 year old version. But ok, I am already used
> to download this and drop in my home folder.
>
> And the second thing is the Maven-Buildtool. There is no package
> available at all in OpenSuse. This is a very important tool and since
> you run it quite often with some scripts and so on it would be nice if I
> wouldnt have to configure this by myself (setting path variables and so on).
>
> I mean gcc and make are also available
>
> Is there a chance that this will change?
>
> Thanks
Some time before I also wondered about this question and had a look at the Eclipse package spec in OBS. It seems that the build process is complex, and has a lot of dependencies.
My guess is that it might be hard work to upgrade the packages to the next version, and nobody volunteered to do it (which I can understand).
The other thing is also that once you install Eclipse, you still might have to install additional plugins that are not packaged as RPM. So it somehow removes the goodness of having a package manager. Anyway, downloading Eclipse and extracting it is pretty easy to do.
Thanks for this insight. Makes sense, and downloading eclipse in the way
I need it might weven be better.
But the other issues are troublesome.
In case of the two tools from the JDK (schemagen and xjc) I wrote a
script that does the ugly work with all the directories, but I think
this should be all provided when I install this. By the way, I installed
the sun-package and removed openJdk.
Am 20.10.2009 16:16, schrieb PVince81:
>
> Some time before I also wondered about this question and had a look at
> the Eclipse package spec in OBS. It seems that the build process is
> complex, and has a lot of dependencies.
>
> My guess is that it might be hard work to upgrade the packages to the
> next version, and nobody volunteered to do it (which I can understand).
>
> The other thing is also that once you install Eclipse, you still might
> have to install additional plugins that are not packaged as RPM. So it
> somehow removes the goodness of having a package manager. Anyway,
> downloading Eclipse and extracting it is pretty easy to do.
>
