I have been reading about Wayland and Mir. Now Google have released their own version, -Freon](http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Is-Ditching-the-X11-Server-for-Freon-475211.shtml).
Hmmm… Have openSUSE any plans to attach to any of this techniques or are they sitting still and waiting? I have no opinion (above my pay grade) if its time for something new or not.
regards
Not yet - but it has had a very long run. So there will come a time when it will have bowed out on most machines.
I didn’t know about freon, so thanks for that. Anyway, currently the situation is as it has been before: every few years a new ‘the next big thing and replacement for X’ comes along. It usually doesn’t get beyond the ‘next big thing’ stage, but one of these days, one of them actually will.
TBH, I’m not going to get excited until something gets to the ‘version 1, feature complete, ready to go’ stage (and having at least one clear advantage over the old, established, arcane, but working X11), but early adopters will be chasing after each of the ‘version 0.1, nearly usable’ candidates.
Partially yes but partially no.
I dont think x11 will fully die as many apps still use it and its far from being legacy.
If its any of them that will replace x11 its wayland but I think its still very unstable still.
Another two-three years maybe but not right now to be sure.
On 2015-03-10, MadmanRB <MadmanRB@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> I dont think x11 will fully die as many apps still use it and its far
> from being legacy.
I agree.
Once again different groups of the GNU/Linux community do the usual thing of risking jeopardising a new development
concept by working as competitors rather than as complementary contributors based on religious ideology rather than
anything else (think GTK vs Qt, GNOME vs Unity, systemd vs sysvinit+friends, deb vs rpm, and now we have Wayland vs
Mir).
> If its any of them that will replace x11 its wayland but I think its
> still very unstable still.
> Another two-three years maybe but not right now to be sure.
Yes, but they also said that 3 years ago (see Bryan Lunduke’s `Linux Sucks’ presentations). Back then, Wayland may have
had a chance but Mir has scuppered any chance for developers to be motivated to switch. The GNU/Linux community may like
choice but I can tell you that writing software is far less of a headache when you only have one single consistent API
to deal with - already having to write/manipulate code to cope with different desktop environments is a real pain! As a
result, until the GNU/Linux community stops wasting time and resources by mutually competing or forking or
parallel-developing but instead works together as a team, I believe Xorg is here to stay for the forseeable future.
The thing is that i do think weyland can replace x11, it certainly proved it can actually run on all kinds of hardware unlike Mir.
Its just still a bit alpha/beta, nothing bad about it but I would want it to iron itself out.
I have sampled wayland on fedora 21, and am eager for it in fedora 22 to see if i can log in using it.