Hi,
I have recently installed 11.4. I just have a small query that should it be upgraded or not since the 12.1 is the latest version, so up-gradation is always recommended or its solely up to the user only? If it is really not a must, I am happy with 11.4.
On 12/25/2011 12:16 PM, happy21 wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I have recently installed 11.4. I just have a small query that should
> it be upgraded or not since the 12.1 is the latest version, so
> up-gradation is always recommended or its solely up to the user only? If
> it is really not a must, I am happy with 11.4.
Upgrading is optional. If you are happy with 11.4, then you can keep running it
until it goes out of maintenance 2 years after it was released. That will be
roughly in March 2013 (I think.).
The advantages of 12.1 are a 3.1 kernel, which has newer/better drivers, and the
use of systemd for booting. If your current kernel works for all your hardware,
then keep the old one. Many people have trouble with systemd. I did until the
most recent update. Now it works just fine on all my computers.
Welcome to openSUSE Forums.
Upgrading is never a must. I just got my fingers burnt doing an upgrade on one machine to 12.1, but then I took the risk because I wasn’t satisfied with 11.4.
If you are happy with 11.4, then you can keep running it
until it goes out of maintenance 2 years after it was released. That will be
roughly in March 2013 (I think.).
It was reduced to 2 releases plus 2 months (effectively 18 months), unless it changed again.
Well thanks for the welcome. Right now, I don’t know much differences between the various kernel versions, but I hope that the newer versions are relatively better or seem to be. For systemd, which is also new, hopefully I would read about. But as you say ‘trouble with systemd’, so that kind of things happen even in default installation? In updating there is no problem, but my only concern was that if really I am getting nothing more except a few changes (which would be, of course), then there is no need.
Okay, however, it is very dependent on the individual but as a matter of curiosity, can you please tell me what were the reasons you were not satisfied with 11.4, I mean are there anythings of which I should be careful or something like breaking might happen (rarest possibility, I guess).
In anyways, if I go for 12.1 also, again I hope, that DVD download would be better than CD download (for, in case if I go for download). Thanks.
openSUSE 11.4 is a solid release with all of the fixes it needs in place. Further, it is possible to upgrade the kernel to the latest if required and same goes for the desktop. Like most things, you can’t hold back forever and the main thing is how well is openSUSE 11.4 working for you? If you are doing well, you can put off any upgrades to another day and continue to learn more about what you have already installed. And, let me join in and saying welcome to the openSUSE forums.
Thank You,
On 12/25/2011 08:26 PM, gumb wrote:
> It was reduced to 2 releases plus 2 months (effectively 18 months),
> unless it changed again.
the lifetime was shortened as gumb mentions, openSUSE 11.4 passes end of
life on September 15th 2012 which is in 266 days (2 months after release
of 12.2) cite: http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime
since everything on my machine likes it, i will probably run it until
then, at least…
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Yes it’s a very individual thing. In my case it was some semi-working hardware (wireless card, webcam, non-3D graphics) that I’d hoped the newer kernel might sort out, plus some other general observations on sluggishness and small quirks. But 11.4 is not a bad release on the other machines I’ve put it on. Indeed, on my laptop I intend to keep it and not upgrade because all is working just fine (once I replace some broken components). Both 11.2 and 11.3 had given me some grief on the laptop, but it’s had every release since 9.2 on there and for the most part they’ve been good.
With a newer machine there’s more of an inclination to keep it updated to make the most of the hardware, but with something older, if you find a release that works well, it’s probably best to stick with it as long as possible.
On 2011-12-25 21:06, happy21 wrote:
> In anyways, if I go for 12.1 also, again I hope, that DVD download
> would be better than CD download (for, in case if I go for download).
Only the DVD can be used for upgrades, not the CD (or the network). The
other method is a zypper dup.
If you have problems with downloads, use aria2c with metalinks. It
guarantees the faster speed and error free.
If you have doubts, whether to upgrade or not, then don’t. Watch the
problems, wait for solutions. Test it on a free partition, or at least as a
virtual machine.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Definitely not a “must” but usually worth it. Depends on your hardware and what you use your computer for. I always install a new version alongside the old one which remains my primary workhorse until I’m convinced that everything works fine with the new installation, that all the software and repositories are available, that any serious bugs affecting me have been sorted. A few weeks after installing 12.1, I’m almost ready to switch full-time which, for me, menas 12.1 is very good and has significant improvements over 11.4 (faster boot, better support for Intel i3 video, etc). But your experience may vary.
Why not find 10Gb or so for another partition to suck it and see? That will tell you more than any amount of forum messages, and also more than running it in a VM as a “virtual” 12.1 doesn’t see all the hardware that a proper installation “sees”. If you encounter problems, just wait until updates resolve them and if they don’t, hang out for 12.2 as you’re happy with 11.4!
I guess then 11.4 too is a very good choice, I am with it then.
Then I hope that there is no need right now to back for 12.1 and start the download.
Okay, I would rather prefer update than upgrade, for me, I guess, there is no harm (or bug, whatever) in the just previous kernel of 11.4, I hope so.
I have recently installed 11.4, I am going to start learning Linux, and as if now, I feel openSUSE is better than Windows. Since I had only one PC and one hard drive, I have actually replaced Windows in its entirety with openSUSE. Further my processor was capable of 64 bit but I had installed 32 bit 11.4 since the RAM was 2 GB (not 4 GB), I hope it is the right reason to not go for 64 bit.
Thanks.
Okay thanks for this since I was afraid if 11.4 has some of the things for which one has to worry! Well, I am sticking with 11.4, 
Okay, but I was in fact in doubt regarding one PC of my home. Since if I download CD, its good and I can download from internet the other required packages, as the time passes and as the requirement arises. But having directly DVD downloaded and installed in the machine, I guess, is more of wasting memory and resources if I have not to use all the packages, and in fact, most of the packages I am seeing first time here and liking these, are better than Windows.
I was known only one client: Deluge, okay, I see this also, since you say ‘it guarantees’ so definitely, it might be helpful, I just see if this has a gui like Deluge, which personally I have liked and felt better.
Okay, I am not doing right now, but in next year, I would rather go for the download 12.2 (hopefully with either ‘aria2c’ or ‘Deluge’) and one either 32 bit or 64 bit. Thanks.
Okay, that’s what I thought of earlier, that is, depends really on the individual.
Sure, but I am going with just the default installation of 11.4 and I right now, frankly telling you, don’t know how to make the dual boot with 10 GB for only 12.1, okay, you suggestions is good, but I have to search first the step by step mechanism which clearly elucidates the whole process of openSUSE-openSUSE dual booting, like having both - 11.4 and 12.1
Yes, I remember that feeling when new to Linux: hooray it works, better not start tinkering. And guess what: I still agree. Spend your time using 11.4, which is perfectly good and far from “pre-historic”, and just learn all the things you need to learn while using what works for you. If you’re uncomfortable repartioning and dual-booting, you’d probably struggle with any problems that 12.1 might throw up for you, so just stay with what you’ve got, and enjoy it!
Chances are that by the time 12.2 comes around, you’ll be far more confident and knowledgeable to take the upgrade in your stride. Welcome to openSUSE!
I’m glad to be free of (most) proprietary software now. I am sticking with 11.4 (finally) and moreover I am glad to use Linux. I know it is the thing of Network Admins or more suitable in a computer field, but I feel that it is looking nice but installations require knowledge of practicals, so apart from it, I guess I would learn all the things - like which are theoretical and which are more suited to the home users. Yes I saw, amarok, and it is great, I guess Windows Media Player fails in front of it. And then VLC! I wonder why didn’t earlier I used Linux and getting things done – free of cost! Thanks.
On 2011-12-26 12:36, happy21 wrote:
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> robin_listas;2422406 Wrote:
>> Only the DVD can be used for upgrades, not the CD (or the network). The
>> other method is a zypper dup.
>
> Okay, but I was in fact in doubt regarding one PC of my home. Since if
> I download CD, its good and I can download from internet the other
> required packages, as the time passes and as the requirement arises. But
> having directly DVD downloaded and installed in the machine, I guess, is
> more of wasting memory and resources if I have not to use all the
> packages, and in fact, most of the packages I am seeing first time here
> and liking these, are better than Windows.
The thing is, that when the DVD boots it ask you whether you want to
install fresh or upgrade. The CD only allows to install fresh.
>
> robin_listas;2422406 Wrote:
>> If you have problems with downloads, use aria2c with metalinks. It
>> guarantees the faster speed and error free.
>
> I was known only one client: Deluge, okay, I see this also, since you
> say ‘it guarantees’ so definitely, it might be helpful, I just see if
> this has a gui like Deluge, which personally I have liked and felt
> better.
Any good metalink downloader is fine.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help#Downloading_via_Metalinks
But Deluge is not listed there.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
You may be interested in the latest kernel as it offers considerable power saving for your laptop’s battery.
The kernel V3.2 should be out in January 2012.
This a little amazing since it is the most configurable torrent client, IMHO.