Is the timing good to install Tumbleweed?

WOW tks a lot for all that info / sharing…

I am scared to ask this but : “nouveau” driver ??? I speak french and nouveau = new

DO you mean the latest driver or nouveau means something else for you guys :slight_smile: ?

To be brief, for Nvidia GPUs there are 2 driver options:

  1. Proprietary drivers. (Directly from Nvidia)
  2. Nouveau. (Open source alternative. Name indeed came from a French word)

Nouveau is not a new driver but an open source alternative that might work well for old GPUs. Nouveau is installed out of the box in Linux.

Nouveau is an open driver, but mostly for older cards.

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tks will read on how to install it…When I cross the bridge / install it on my Desktop (if I decide for fun, to keep the card i have)

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nouveau is a video driver that goes waaaayyyy back in time that is the linux offering to run Nvidia cards.

I think in the installer it will ask, “Would you like Proprietary or default?” something like that, I recommend “default” or if it asks about nouveau then pick that. Or you can “sudo zypper in nouveau” I believe after installation. If you are not a gamer then I think nouveau is fine . . . and more “stable” . . . . But sometimes, like with the G06 packages, that tries to flip you to proprietary . . . hence the rabbit hole of a long term relationship with Nvidia.

But, if you can get your openSUSE system of choice running, then do that, I don’t think it’s worth it to buy a new GPU these days, as the prices are up for those who are crypto “mining” with them . . . . My HAL 5700G has graphics in the cpu, no extra GPU needed . . . HAL is typing this post out now . . . on its own. : - )))

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LOL HAL

Tks for sharing your opinion, that make sense to me…

For those who know the movie :

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@Lioli7k Three… Nouveau, Nvidia open (for newer gpus) and Nvidia proprietary :wink:

Intel has two i915 and xe (for newer gpus)

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@non_space that’s why I suggest Intel A series… if just want video then the A310 is sufficient :wink: and you get hardware encoding/decoding OTB with the current intel packages and more.

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Well, yes… But Nvidia open ones do not support GT 710. And if we’re going that far then there are 4 options (in the future). Nova is going to be a thing once it is ready.

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Well, indeed Intel is “tried and true” . . . as an original PPC mac person I still have a penchant for motorola, but for my recent build I went with Karl’s suggestion to try Ryzen . . . in the “and now for something completely different” sense of it.

Too early to tell if it is more or less “the same” OR a whole new learning curve, as what I did to slice and dice my drives in my Intel Mac to be able to multi-boot, doesn’t seem to be quite working . . . ???

It’s all for the s**ts and the giggles. But so far TW is running fast and fine on it . . . so that part is good. 6.15 is warp drive level stuff. : - ))))

for my system kernel 6.15+ causes severe audio glitches. I hope it gets fixed soon

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You should probably ask for help with that rather than just tagging into an unrelated open chat discussion. :slight_smile:

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if you’re referring to me, I’m not allowed to create topics. so…

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UserBenchmark is useless. You cannot and never could trust their data. This is well known among everyone who researches hardware and reputable reviewers who publish true benchmarks.

They’re well known for distorting anything AMD related, pushing Intel and Nvidia instead.

1.5 stars at Trustpilot. I don’t know how trustworthy Trustpilot is because I don’t use it, but others trust it.

I’ll go with the opinion of actual everyday users and their evidence that UserBenchmark is UselessBenchmark. This includes users of the major Overclocking forums, the Steam Community, and every reputable hardware review site. The best clue is no manufacturer ever cites their data.

A Google search will give you enough to keep you reading for a month on this subject.

That is your opinion. You saw that the other “technical review” in my post confirms that the AMD RX 4600 is a really bad choice? You can believe the marketing bla bla from AMD or trust benchmarks. I trust benchmarks. Sure, some fanboys can’t stand that their beloved brand does get bad reviews and realize that they spent to much money for substandard hardware (because they fell for the marketing bla bla).

When different websites and benchmarks (including Userbenchmark) show the same results for the same hardware…sure, start bashing Userbenchmark :yawning_face:

And the marketshare of Nvidia, AMD and Intel confirms what is only marketing bla bla, and what hardware is really used in reality.

I am referring to you, and you certainly should be able to create topics. But you can’t create them in the top-level categories. If you navigate to the specific category where your topic belongs, you should be able to without any issues at all.

I know you meant AMD RX 6400, not 4600 (a 2008 card).

I’m not a fanboy of anyone and I didn’t post my opinion of the 6400 at all. I posted the opinion of countless users who have posted screenshots and information about UserBenchmark.

I also did not disagree with your opinion that the 6400 is a dog (especially per dollar performance) and there are many better options. I had not bought a new GPU since the 90’s. I found good used deals, mostly NVIDIA cards, besides a Sapphire RX 580 Nitro. I finally bought a new Intel ARC A750 in 2023.

I’m not a gamer and only use the compute power of the GPU. I chose the A750 because at $200 new it was a good deal and I’m very happy with its performance per dollar. A good used RTX 3060 still cost more than the A750 did new. Still, I’d like to have a nice NVIDIA card but the prices are crazy. I’m a deal shopper and try to buy when an item is on a good sale. I built a Ryzen 7950X3D gaming machine for a friend and recommend the RTX 4070 to him. He makes good money and wanted a good gaming card without going crazy like the $1000+ NVIDIA cards.

As for where I get my opinion, I read a lot of reviews before I buy anything, used or new. I don’t want second rate hardware even if it’s used and cheap. With the decline in desktop computer use, there’s not nearly as many reviews as there used to be.

Many Linux users don’t know about Phoronix that does hardware reviews using Linux. When I read about the Samsung 970/980 NVMe SSD performance on Linux, I couldn’t believe it. I confirmed it on my wife’s Samsung NVMe SSD. They are not the best choice for Linux but her’s works fine…just not as good as my WD SN850X. We got her’s in a machine that we bought for the Thermaltake Core V71 case. It had an Asrock Z97 Extreme6 board with a i7-4790K and a new Samsung 1TB 980 Pro in it (No CPU cooler, PSU, GPU or RAM). $80 for the whole thing…couldn’t pass it up.

Phoronix also reviews GPU’s running under Linux. A good GPU for Windows might not be so good if you’re running Linux, though I do think that’s improving.

If the OP is looking for a good deal, he knows that a well taken care of used GPU is where he’ll find the best deal. But it may take time for one to pop up on eBay or wherever.

And finally, I do agree with you about fanboys. Don’t just ask friends (unless they are very knowledgeable) or whoever, do your own research. :computer:

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I trust Phoronix as much as I trust Santa Claus.

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Personally, I find generic benchmarks to be pretty useless overall. They can provide some directional ideas, but unless the configuration is exactly the same as the system that I’m using, it’s pretty meaningless, because there are so many different factors that play into performance.

One of those factors is workload. If a benchmark is looking at CPU performance only, for example, then if you have a heavy I/O workload that puts the CPU in a high iowait state, then no matter how fast the CPU is, the system is going to be sluggish, because the CPU isn’t the bottleneck, the I/O channel is.

There are far too many variables for a single benchmark to be anything other than a very broad guideline for how a system might perform.

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I think what really only matters here:
Budget - that always matters :stuck_out_tongue:
GPU related applications - If the OP is only running a web browser, then some older 20 series RTX or even GTX 1000 should be all set, same for some AMD cards that are well supported by amdgpu, even some radeonsi based ones too. If gaming is involved then I would recommend the most modern GPU arch for Vulkan / Proton. Then there is GPU computing, it is always safer to go with Cuda compared to RocM these days, unless you do pay for the latest RNDA3 or RDNA4 line of AMD graphics.
Power Supply / Case - Some of those top of line cards require a high wattage power supply, and good clearance in the case, and even a support pole too.

The only hassle I find with TW nvidia drivers, I usually have to force re-install the kmp default package to get it rebuild the kmod, usually after large updates that also include the kernel upgrade. I have seen sometimes GCC just fail in the kmod build process too. As for amdgpu, updates to that driver ship with the kernel, but with RADV, you hope a newer Mesa will keep on improving support, like it had some issues with Unreal Engine 5, so I had to use amdvlk instead.

There are the Intel Arc cards which I hard just works out of the box with the latest kernel, but I have never touched.