Is internet radio supposed to work?

Dumb question, yes.

My audio is set up correctly. I can listen to mp3 stored in my system,
watch movies, see youtube… but I can not listen to internet radio.

If I open “http://www.jango.com/” I can choose songs and listen to them
just fine, although they want me to sign up, which I don’t.

I fire up banshee. I can listen to my mp3 collection. There is an entry
on the left labeled “radio”, so I select it and see a large list of
stations. I double click on a lot of them, and all I get is a [X]
mini-icon on the left of each station name I click on, but nothing
sounds, and nothing downloads (it would be shown on gkrellm monitors). I
see for 2 seconds the word “contacting”, then “iddle”. Maybe banshee is
broken, maybe all those stations are in the USA and I’m in Spain and
they don’t want to serve me. Dunno.

I also see other options on the left panel, like “amazon mp3 store” or
“miro guide”; both say “can not resolve proxy hostname ()”.

I have no proxy, I have a router directly connected via ADSL to my ISP.

So I quit banshee and try amarok.

I click on internet, then click on Jamendo, just because I like the
name. I know nothing about it. It loads a database for a long time.
Looks nice. Then I search for “Mecano”, which was a very popular group
in the 80’s here in Spain. Nothing from them found. Ok. So I type Johan
Sebastian Bach. Shows some hits (extremely few for my liking). I double
click on one of them, it goes to the playlist thing. I click play…
nothing happens, no download, no sound.

So I go to the internet button again, select “cool streams”, and try
some of them. None works.

Why?

Is Amarok broken? Do I need amarok from packman, too? Is it because all
stations are on another country and they don’t like mine? If so, why are
not more stations on more countries listed?

Or I am being daft somehow, which would not surprise me anyhow.

A friend just told me he listens to music in Windows using something
called winamp. He can even save the streams as mp3 on the fly. Says it
is very easy, he just puts a station and listens to it. Why not me in Linux?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On Tue 29 Jan 2013 12:33:05 AM CST, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Dumb question, yes.

My audio is set up correctly. I can listen to mp3 stored in my system,
watch movies, see youtube… but I can not listen to internet radio.

If I open “http://www.jango.com/” I can choose songs and listen to them
just fine, although they want me to sign up, which I don’t.

I fire up banshee. I can listen to my mp3 collection. There is an entry
on the left labeled “radio”, so I select it and see a large list of
stations. I double click on a lot of them, and all I get is a
mini-icon on the left of each station name I click on, but nothing
sounds, and nothing downloads (it would be shown on gkrellm monitors). I
see for 2 seconds the word “contacting”, then “iddle”. Maybe banshee is
broken, maybe all those stations are in the USA and I’m in Spain and
they don’t want to serve me. Dunno.

I also see other options on the left panel, like “amazon mp3 store” or
“miro guide”; both say “can not resolve proxy hostname ()”.

I have no proxy, I have a router directly connected via ADSL to my ISP.

So I quit banshee and try amarok.

I click on internet, then click on Jamendo, just because I like the
name. I know nothing about it. It loads a database for a long time.
Looks nice. Then I search for “Mecano”, which was a very popular group
in the 80’s here in Spain. Nothing from them found. Ok. So I type Johan
Sebastian Bach. Shows some hits (extremely few for my liking). I double
click on one of them, it goes to the playlist thing. I click play…
nothing happens, no download, no sound.

So I go to the internet button again, select “cool streams”, and try
some of them. None works.

Why?

Is Amarok broken? Do I need amarok from packman, too? Is it because all
stations are on another country and they don’t like mine? If so, why are
not more stations on more countries listed?

Or I am being daft somehow, which would not surprise me anyhow.

A friend just told me he listens to music in Windows using something
called winamp. He can even save the streams as mp3 on the fly. Says it
is very easy, he just puts a station and listens to it. Why not me in
Linux?

Hi
Probably… I don’t use banshee, I use pandora/last.fm via pithos


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 2 days 6:54, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.40, 0.23
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

On 2013-01-29 01:49, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Hi
> Probably… I don’t use banshee, I use pandora/last.fm via pithos

What is that? I search for pandora or pithos in yast and see nothing. :-?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On Tue 29 Jan 2013 01:18:06 AM CST, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2013-01-29 01:49, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Hi
> Probably… I don’t use banshee, I use pandora/last.fm via pithos

What is that? I search for pandora or pithos in yast and see
nothing. :-?

Hi
For 12.1 you will need to use GNOME:Apps repository, I only got it into
12.2 and up…


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 2 days 7:58, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

So Amarok is working for with the default Internet Radio Stuff. My experience tells me that when audio does not work and your audio is configured to work normally for most other apps, either you are missing some multimedia support, or your sound card or chipset is not supported properly by the Multimedia applications installed. Now I know you have been using Linux since you were three, but do you in fact follow the recommended Multimedia configurations? Often, this does end up loading a lot of files and someone on a disk space budget may try to do better, by loading only what they think is needed. So, again,have you confirmed your Multimedia setup? While not at all perfect, you can run my mmcheck script to see: https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/jdmcdaniel3/mmcheck-version-2-35-check-your-multimedia-16-steps-bash-script-file-36/

The next issue is your sound device, and short of trying a different one, its much harder to get to the bottom of the problem but I have one example for you. Take RealTek Built-in audio sound chips often included with many “clone” motherboards. In one case, I was trying to get a PC to play iTunes Movie Trailers (Which by the Way I can, can you? iTunes Movie Trailers, anyway on one PC I had Multimedia up to snuff, I normally follow my own guide, but the iTunes videos had no audio. I never figured out if something was muted, or not supported or what. But, I disabled the built-in Audio, installed a Creative Sound card, nothing else was changed, and audio started working like a champ. So, nothing wrong with the Multimedia at all, just a sound chipset or configuration issue. By the way, with my mmcheck setup, you will be using Totem to play iTunes Movie Trailers.

Thank You,

On 2013-01-29 02:52, malcolmlewis wrote:

> Hi
> For 12.1 you will need to use GNOME:Apps repository, I only got it into
> 12.2 and up…

Ok, trying… it wants me giving a pandora account, I have nothing o
that. I see no list of internet radios to connect and try. Uninstalling.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On Tue 29 Jan 2013 03:43:14 AM CST, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2013-01-29 02:52, malcolmlewis wrote:

> Hi
> For 12.1 you will need to use GNOME:Apps repository, I only got it
> into 12.2 and up…

Ok, trying… it wants me giving a pandora account, I have nothing o
that. I see no list of internet radios to connect and try. Uninstalling.

Hi
Pandora and last.fm are free…


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 1:24, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

On 2013-01-29 03:36, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:

> So Amarok is working for with the default Internet Radio Stuff. My
> experience tells me that when audio does not work and your audio is
> configured to work normally for most other apps, either you are missing
> some multimedia support, or your sound card or chipset is not supported
> properly by the Multimedia applications installed.

Sound card is not involved in the problem, because amarok plays fine any
other thing but internet.

If I had a problem with audio, I would see amarok downloading something
but hear nothing. It does not download anything. Forget about sound
device problems.

If somebody knows of european internet radios, I can try them.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 2013-01-29 01:49, malcolmlewis wrote:
>
> So I quit banshee and try amarok.

There is no packman version of banshee. I saw a bunch of packages
related to internet, installed them, but no change.

I tried to install the amarok version available in packman, which is
version “amarok-2.6” instead of 2.4. I complained of a missing
dependency (libavutil??), which I ignored, then it installed a lot of 32
bit libraries. And anyway, it does not run:


cer@Telcontar:~> amarok
amarok: error while loading shared libraries: liblastfm.so.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

I’ll have to undo the installation.


Downloading libtwolame0-32bit (download size 44 kB)
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Downloading amarok (download size 6.08 MB)


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 2013-01-29 04:46, malcolmlewis wrote:

> Hi
> Pandora and last.fm are free…

Maybe, but I’m not registering on anything. I just want to listen to
free radios on internet.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On Tue 29 Jan 2013 04:23:14 AM CST, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2013-01-29 04:46, malcolmlewis wrote:

> Hi
> Pandora and last.fm are free…

Maybe, but I’m not registering on anything. I just want to listen to
free radios on internet.

Ah well… <shrug>

All the online ones I tried work in banshee so I guess it must be
location related.


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 2:45, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.10
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

On 2013-01-29 05:18, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> There is no packman version of banshee. I saw a bunch of packages
> related to internet, installed them, but no change.

So I opened again banshee, took one station named “KDAV”, edited
properties, copied the URL into audacious URL entry, and it failed with
an error that went so fast that I could not see it.

Then I tried with another station name “WCPE”, added to the current
playlist, and this time I saw info from the station being displayed into
audacious. So I clicked “play”, and it plays!

So it is banshee which is broken somehow. The same URL plays in
audacious fine. This package comes from packman, but as I say, there is
no packman version of banshee.

I then tried again amarok, and did the same with an station named
“SKY.FM”. It fails in amarok, works perfect in audacious.

But I can not install the packman version of amarok.

Neither of the two programs give any error message, and both work fine
with local mp3 files.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

Some radio stations used to fail to play for me until I installed gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-orig-addon which includes libgstfaac.so.

On 2013-01-29 06:09, malcolmlewis wrote:
> All the online ones I tried work in banshee so I guess it must be
> location related.

And some of those I tried from the banshee list, in audacious, worked as
well, regardless bein USA sites.

There is something very weird going on.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 2013-01-29 12:36, nightwishfan wrote:
>
> Some radio stations used to fail to play for me until I installed
> gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-orig-addon which includes libgstfaac.so.

Ah.

It was missing. I installed that one and all other gstreamer things that
were not installed, just a few. But no change in banshee. :frowning:

I tried “the internet archive”. Selected one at random from the concert
button. Nothing, no download, no sound. Amazon and miro still say that
they can not solve proxy hostname, whatever that means.

I then tried amarok, same result. Nothing from “cool streams”. Nothing
from Jamendo. Nothing from Magnatune, nothing from podcast (I selected
some from the BBC). Nothing from gpodder.

Nothing works, none downloads anything, none displays any error.

However, audacious works fine provided you do know the URL, it has no list.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 2013-01-29 12:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-01-29 06:09, malcolmlewis wrote:
>> All the online ones I tried work in banshee so I guess it must be
>> location related.
>
> And some of those I tried from the banshee list, in audacious, worked as
> well, regardless bein USA sites.
>
> There is something very weird going on.

I have followed, again, the instructions on the multimedia stickie, just
in casse. Both amarok and banshee still refuse to work on any internet
service I tried (without displaying any error), while audicious keeps
working.


> https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/new-user-how-faq-read-only/407184-multi-media-restricted-format-installation-guide.html#post2180319

The version of amarok I have is 2.4.3 from openSUSE. I see version 2.6.0
from packman, but selecting it complains:


#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2013-01-29 16:52:52 ####

nothing provides libavutil.so.52()(64bit) needed by amarok-2.6.0-8.3.x86_64

 ] do not install amarok-2.6.0-8.3.x86_64

 ] break amarok-2.6.0-8.3.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies

I have “libavutil50” installed from packman.

When I selected the second option yesterday I got a long list of 32 bit
libraries installed, which I then had to remove one by one.

YaST2 conflicts list END


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

I had the same problem. Many stations insist on having you use their Windoze based players. I found that mpg123 and mplayer will play most streams. I wrote a small BaCon (a BASIC to C compiler) program that handles this. You can do it with a bash script as well. It reads a data file that displays a list of stations, tells it the address and what utility to use so that the resulting invocation is something like…

mpg123 --control -@ http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128.m3u for Radio Paradise

mpg123 --control http://stream-1.ssatr.ch:80/rsc/mp3 for Swiss Radio Classical

…or…

mplayer -cache 1000 mmsh://81.23.249.10/ArrowAudio02?MSWMExt=.asf for Arrow Radio Amsterdam

I got the addresses from a search of “free internet radio”. In many cases you have extract the final address being played from screen output, as stations give one link then transfer (sometimes many times) to another link.

Just tested Amarok, works fine on my laptop. Jamendo downloads the database, I click and sound works.

On 2013-01-29 17:26, Knurpht wrote:
>
> Just tested Amarok, works fine on my laptop. Jamendo downloads the
> database, I click and sound works.

I tried banshee-1 (about says version 2) in the laptop, running 11.4.
There is no list of radio stations to try, but tried one of two items
from the internet archive and both worked. Amarok is not installed here,
ca not try.

I manually typed a radio station, one that works in audacious on the
desktop machine. But here it doesn’t in banshee: it says “contacting”,
then “iddle”. Does not work. Starting banshee from a terminal, this is
printed:


> [Warn  19:59:51.913]  - wcpe.org (on wcpe.org) <00:00:00> <unknown>] - System.Net.WebException: Error: NameResolutionFailure (in `System')
&gt;   at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.EndGetResponse (IAsyncResult asyncResult) [0x00000] in &lt;filename unknown&gt;:0
&gt;   at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse () [0x00000] in &lt;filename unknown&gt;:0
&gt;   at Banshee.Playlists.Formats.PlaylistParser.Parse (Hyena.SafeUri uri) [0x00000] in &lt;filename unknown&gt;:0
&gt;   at Banshee.Streaming.RadioTrackInfo.LoadStreamUri (System.String uri) [0x00000] in &lt;filename unknown&gt;:0



Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

On 2013-01-29 20:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I tried banshee-1 (about says version 2) in the laptop, running 11.4.

I got it working on the laptop, apparently I had misstyped something.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))