iPad and Linux

On 2014-02-09 06:46, caf4926 wrote:
> Another thing. I received back a 5 min training session video this week
> and it was nearly 600MB LOL !
> Ran it thru VLC and now it’s a more respectable 12MB

Cameras often have a limited processor, so doing high compression on the
fly is not feasible. Maybe even not wanted: I set mine to the highest
quality available, thus, big size.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

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On 2014-02-09 05:56, Miuku wrote:

> I won’t comment anything else on this thread because I know what this
> forum is like. Just saying “It can be done”.

If the method is legal, I don’t see why you can not comment. And nothing
is off-topic in chit-chat :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

That’s no excuse for providing students with a 600MB file overhead to download.

I don’t understand why.

For a really simple solution you can also install iTunes on any Windows machine and transfer files via that (all video, music, documents etc. files on the iPad will be listed in it and you can just drag and drop files back and forth via either cable or WLAN). Why would they need to give the device to anyone else? It makes no sense.

For Linux you can use Feem WiFi or as far as I know you can just mount the device, no jailbreak needed as is in this image:

http://i.stack.imgur.com/vaF8B.png

@Miuku
Thanks for this useful info

Note that I don’t have an iPad myself so I can’t test it but this is how the guys at work used to do it - just transfer stuff like a baws!

Edit: There were many openSUSE users so they hacked it to work or maybe it just works right out of the box. I cannot say.

On Sun 09 Feb 2014 07:06:01 PM CST, Miuku wrote:

Note that I don’t have an iPad myself so I can’t test it but this is how
the guys at work used to do it - just transfer stuff like a baws!

Edit: There were many openSUSE users so they hacked it to work or maybe
it just works right out of the box. I cannot say.

Hi
I have an iPad4(wifi) here, in openSUSE just plug it in and it
appears and can browse the folders etc…


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Well that settles it then - plug and play.

On 2014-02-09 17:26, consused wrote:
> That’s no excuse for providing students with a 600MB file overhead to
> download.

It is normal on people with limited computer knowledge. And those with
unlimited resources.

Heck, opensuse.org does it as well. Try to keep your machine updated
when you have a limited internet connection, like a POT modem, or a data
plan limited to 500MB/month. There are threads alive in the forums here
with some people trying…


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

Not clear on that point. Are you saying that “students” generally have limited computer knowledge and unlimited resources?

Heck, opensuse.org does it as well. Try to keep your machine updated
when you have a limited internet connection, like a POT modem, or a data
plan limited to 500MB/month. There are threads alive in the forums here
with some people trying…

I can’t imagine anyone doing that with Tumbleweed installed. Forgive me for the next comment:
A data plan of 500MB/month might be ok for a smart phone (not running GNU/Linux), with the aid of additional free Wifi connectivity. lol!

On 2014-02-10 16:06, consused wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2623490 Wrote:
>> On 2014-02-09 17:26, consused wrote:
>>> That’s no excuse for providing students with a 600MB file overhead to
>>> download.
>>
>> It is normal on people with limited computer knowledge. And those with
>> unlimited resources.
> Not clear on that point. Are you saying that “students” generally have
> limited computer knowledge and unlimited resources?

No, I say that often people that are not… what’s the word… fluent?
with computers may not be even aware that video can be compressed more,
or that they should do it because it is easier on other people. No
computerese empathy :slight_smile:

And those with ample computer resources tend to forget that there are
(many/some) computer users with much less resources (cpu speed, memory,
bandwidth).

I had friends that often sent me huge emails (at the time) with photos
or presentations, sent from their office network, which took me 15
minutes to download on my network, each single email.

And some of those were teachers :wink:

>> Heck, opensuse.org does it as well. Try to keep your machine updated
>> when you have a limited internet connection, like a POT modem, or a data
>> plan limited to 500MB/month. There are threads alive in the forums here
>> with some people trying…

> I can’t imagine anyone doing that with Tumbleweed installed.

No, that would be impossible :slight_smile:

> Forgive me
> for the next comment:
> A data plan of 500MB/month might be ok for a smart phone (not running
> GNU/Linux), with the aid of additional free Wifi connectivity. lol!

Well, a data plan for my laptop of 500 MB/month is what I had only a
year ago. Now I share the connection of my cell, which is 1GB/month.
Muuuuch bigger.

So not that rare.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

Well, a data plan for my laptop of 500 MB/month is what I had only a
year ago. Now I share the connection of** my cell**, which is 1GB/month.
Muuuuch bigger.

Those levels are ridiculously low. On what planet do you live?
my cell’ ?Uh? sounds like you are locked up

Tumbleweed has some massive update requirements which makes it a poor choice for your level of connection.

On Tue 11 Feb 2014 03:26:01 AM CST, caf4926 wrote:

> Well, a data plan for my laptop of 500 MB/month is what I had only a
> year ago. Now I share the connection of* my cell*, which is 1GB/month.
> Muuuuch bigger.

Those levels are ridiculously low. On what planet do you live?
my cell’ ?Uh? sounds like you are locked up

Tumbleweed has some massive update requirements which makes it a poor
choice for your level of connection.

What’s a data plan… :wink: I’d burn through that in less than an hour
here…


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On 2014-02-11 04:26, caf4926 wrote:
>
>> Well, a data plan for my laptop of 500 MB/month is what I had only a
>> year ago. Now I share the connection of* my cell*, which is 1GB/month.
>> Muuuuch bigger.
>
> Those levels are ridiculously low. On what planet do you live?

Planet Earth, last time I checked. Not everybody is as fortunate as you.

> ‘my cell’ ?Uh? sounds like you are locked up

Is not “cell” the word for mobile phone in English? I’m confused. :expressionless:

> Tumbleweed has some massive update requirements which makes it a poor
> choice for your level of connection.

Who is using Tumbleweed here? Not me, not anybody I mentioned, AFAIK.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

mumble…mumble…

On 2014-02-11, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>> Those levels are ridiculously low. On what planet do you live?
> Planet Earth, last time I checked. Not everybody is as fortunate as you.

Seems a bit odd to share a mobile connection with a laptop, but I guess you can route it through a more generously
provided desktop aswell, so you can download openSUSE at the very least! I thought 500 MiB/month contracts were fairly
standard for mobile phones. Or perhaps I’m living in a country (U.K.) that isn’t on planet Earth (seems to be in a
sea-world at the moment!).

>> ‘my cell’ ?Uh? sounds like you are locked up
> Is not “cell” the word for mobile phone in English? I’m confused. :expressionless:

I think a cell phone' is a commonly used term in the U.S.A., but we tend to use mobile’ in British English.

Yes, mobile phone is the common usage in UK. I would have understood “cell phone” coming from the early days of mobiles here. However with just “my cell”, I could have assumed Carlos was referring to the local mobile communication “cell” nearest to his home.

I thought perhaps Carlos was using “mobile broadband” with a monthly download limit of 500MB or now 1GB, but it’s expensive here. I don’t have it and would only justify it for commercial business use.

On 2014-02-11 10:36, flymail wrote:
> On 2014-02-11, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>>> Those levels are ridiculously low. On what planet do you live?
>> Planet Earth, last time I checked. Not everybody is as fortunate as you.
>
> Seems a bit odd to share a mobile connection with a laptop, but I guess you can route it through a more generously
> provided desktop aswell, so you can download openSUSE at the very least! I thought 500 MiB/month contracts were fairly
> standard for mobile phones. Or perhaps I’m living in a country (U.K.) that isn’t on planet Earth (seems to be in a
> sea-world at the moment!).

Look.

I have absolutely no need to do updates while using that connection, nor
download the distribution. Nor do I use Tumbleweed. My intention was
only to comment that there are people out there having to use very
limited internet connections, and I mentioned one of mine as an example.

I have a an ADSL line (1MB/s) which I use when at home, or other people
land lines when at their places, if they allow me. When on the move, I
had a dedicated mobile device plugged in via USB, with a data plan of
only 500 MB/month. 1GB/month plans are typical here, and of course, they
run out too soon if you use that daily. Bigger plans do exist, and are
much more expensive. Much more.

But now, I share the connection from the cell phone/mobile phone,
because I use the laptop on the move very sporadically, and I save the
little amount from the separate data plan for the laptop.

Life is hard, and I don’t see it as a laughing matter.

I only ask that people be considerate with others and do not expect
others to have the same conditions as they have, as a good and
affordable Internet connection.

Let’s keep it nice.

>>> ‘my cell’ ?Uh? sounds like you are locked up
>> Is not “cell” the word for mobile phone in English? I’m confused. :expressionless:
>
> I think a cell phone' is a commonly used term in the U.S.A., but we tend to use mobile’ in British English.

Well, I assume that people here should know both terms, being on an
international forum. If I use the term “cell phone”, “cellular” or
“cell” is because I think that the majority of the audience is more
familiar with American usage than British usage. To me, the term
“mobile” is more familiar, using “cell” takes an effort.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

On 2014-02-11 07:06, caf4926 wrote:
>
> mumble…mumble…

Please.
I would expect more consideration from a moderator.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

On 2014-02-11 13:16, consused wrote:

>> I think a `cell phone’ is a commonly used term in the U.S.A., but we

tend to use `mobile’ in British English.
> Yes, mobile phone is the common usage in UK. I would have understood
> “cell phone” coming from the early days of mobiles here. However with
> just “my cell”, I could have assumed Carlos was referring to the local
> mobile communication “cell” nearest to his home.

No, sorry, I referred to mobile phone.

> I thought perhaps Carlos was using “mobile broadband” with a monthly
> download limit of 500MB or now 1GB, but it’s expensive here. I don’t
> have it and would only justify it for commercial business use.

Yes, that’s it.

That 500MB plan had a price of 9€, so it was affordable for having some
access while on the move. Nothing much, email and some browsing. People
forced to use such things for months on end have a problem.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))