Of course you can’t. Else the usage of username/password would be ridiculous.
Well, you can, if you crack the side. But I assume you do not realy try to commit any crimes?
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:56:01 +0000, Arpadius98 wrote:
> By what I said before, I meant that can you go on a website where you
> have to login first in order to be able to view it (for example, a
> database can you view it without logging in?). So there is a website,
> then it asks for a username and password, can I skip that process (of
> giving a username and password) and view the website? I am sorry I did
> not say it too clearly before.
Generally, no, because the authentication is there to prevent
unauthorized access.
Realize, though, that you’re asking very broad questions that aren’t
easily generalized. You can’t prevent apache (or IIS, or nginx, or
whatever web server is answering your requests) from logging things it is
configured to log. You can’t access properly protected resources that
require authentication without authenticating.
That’s how web servers work - and how they’re designed to work. It’s
like understanding that when you connect two systems together for
communications, at some level, the two systems must know about each other
- otherwise communication simply cannot happen.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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hendersj,
Thanks for answering. However, I would like to know exactly, what TOR and JonDo does. The way I know it is JonDo encrypts your IP and TOR (The Onion Router) runs your internet through other servers giving a false location (which I experienced yet, when I went on www.google.com). I thought that they also block the ads, I still have ads (sometimes in french, german, russian, and english), and I read that if I add AdBlock Plus to the TOR browser I will no longer be anonymous.
Also, I recently have been looking at the SSL/TLS Library encryption which I believe strongly encrypts my IP adress (though I hadn`t had any luck installing it yet, I only found the OpenSSL, which I hope should be the same thing).
Cheers & thanks,
-Arpadius98
hccv,
No, I do not look forward to cracking webpages at all. I would certainly not do that. And also, I am not the kind of person who would want to do it.
Cheers & thanks,
-Arpadius98
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:56:02 +0000, Arpadius98 wrote:
> hendersj,
>
> Thanks for answering. However, I would like to know exactly, what TOR
> and JonDo does. The way I know it is JonDo encrypts your IP and TOR (The
> Onion Router) runs your internet through other servers giving a false
> location (which I experienced yet, when I went on www.google.com). I
> thought that they also block the ads, I still have ads (sometimes in
> french, german, russian, and english), and I read that if I add AdBlock
> Plus to the TOR browser I will no longer be anonymous.
> Also, I recently have been looking at the SSL/TLS Library encryption
> which I believe strongly encrypts my IP adress (though I hadn`t had any
> luck installing it yet, I only found the OpenSSL, which I hope should be
> the same thing).
For a technical description, have a look at the relevant documentation
for the tools in question.
Basically, though - there are two ways these types of tools work:
-
You connect to the tool (whether it’s TOR or something else), and it
connects to the target on your behalf - like a proxy server. If you’re
A, traffic is sent from A to B (the ‘anonymizer’) to C (the target), and
returns from C to B to A. -
You connect to the tool and it tunnels your connection to the remote
server. Very similar in practical operation, because your IP address
appears to be the proxy/exit node/whatever to the end web server.
In either situation, you have to trust that the piece in the middle isn’t
doing anything untoward with your connection - like injecting fake SSL/TLS
certificates to execute a man-in-the-middle attack to steal private data.
SSL/TLS doesn’t affect IP addresses at all; IP addresses aren’t
encrypted. The contents of traffic packets are. Have a look at the OSI
networking model to see why.
You might want to take a basic class on computer networking, because a
lot of what you’re asking makes it clear that you lack a fundamental
understanding of how networks work. Don’t “believe” - learn the facts. 
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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Your suggestion on me taking computer networking classes is not a bad idea at all. I do not have much knowledge in this field… I have started learning these and asking others since it interests me and because I will need it later.
Don’t “believe” - learn the facts.
Thats a good one mate. Hehe.
Cheers,
-Arpadius98
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:16:01 +0000, Arpadius98 wrote:
>> Don’t “believe” - learn the facts.
>
> Thats a good one mate. Hehe.
>
> Cheers,
> -Arpadius98
Glad to help out - and to make people smile.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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Can I recommend a book to you, please? The first section of the book ‘DNS and Bind’ (Ablitz and Liu (?), O’Reilly) explains IP networking in some detail, and you’ll be better informed when you read something like that. I can’t say that you should, necessarily buy the book, if you have the option of buying from a library for long enough to read the first few chapters.
You’ll see that when you send packets to a site, you have to tell then where to send the return packets, otherwise you can’t get the packets back which represent the response. There is no way that something like the internet can work, otherwise (there are some smaller networking topologies/organisations that can work without a return address, depending on what exactly you mean by work, and whether you are bothered by privacy, but, try to do that for general networking, with a big network, and the excess traffic will bring everything to a halt).
So, if you are to use a website, they have to have a return address, or they can’t send you stuff, and without stuff back, you are effectively not using the website. Using something like TOR obfuscates the process a bit, and makes it harder for third parties to snoop the conversation, but, the original website can still send you stuff, otherwise they can’t send you stuff.
It seems that you really want something like an adblocking program, because what you seem to want (as opposed to what you first asked for) is not to see the ads.
Obscurant,
Thank you for the book suggestion! I will check it out! 
It seems that you really want something like an adblocking program, because what you seem to want (as opposed to what you first asked for) is not to see the ads
Yes, indeed. That is what I am looking for, to make sure that I will never ever ever ever again get a ad and so that the system will never ever ever know where I am (it annoys me, that when I go on www.google.com it immidiately says where I am, and the worst part about it is that the local language here is ultra complex (speaking it is even more complex) and that when I go on a website to download an app, it is in a language I don`t know. What I do, is I use TOR/JonDoFox (and JonDo) and I fake my location by putting using a proxy server which is in the U.S, so if I have to download something I get it in english. On Youtube I no longer get ads, but on some webpages I still do (those ads are in english, and I think they have been literally “built” into the the website).
Anyway. I am looking forward to reading the book you suggested me (DNS and Bind).
Cheers & thanks for the suggestion,
-Arpadius98
hendersj,
Glad to help out - and to make people smile.
I like that, since its good inspiration and makes it more fun! Keep up mate.
Cheers,
-Arpadius98
It seems that you are alergic to ads.
Do you use Ad Blocker Plus (or similar)?
Do you use NoScript and allow as a maximum scripts temporary (of course not for trusted sites you visit often like these forums, your bank, etc.)?
Do you manage your cookies? Again only allowing them for the session or not at all (again there are exceptions. e.g. your bank maybe).
I almost never see any ads.
hcvv,
You are very much correct. I am very very allergic to ads and whenever I see any type of ad I get annoyed (if it is on my laptop only), I hate them so much. I don`t care about shampoo creams and lego toys for sale…
What I use:
JonDo
JonDoFox (works good with JonDo)
TOR (The Onion Router, again works good while I have JonDo on)
Google Chrome (equipped with AdBlock Plus, which is not as efficient at blocking ads as TOR or JonDoFox is)
My Cookie settings is: Reject All Cookies. AND I have NoScript enabled in the TOR browser and in JonDoFox.
I don`t see ads often either by the way, I see them once or twice, but I hate them so much, especially when I want to download something, the ads many times say (download here). And I fell into the trap once, where I accidently downloaded some sort of video game (like a really small game, using little space). And my allergy on those type of ads is really serious. I even want to delete the thought of ads from my head, and even the word.
Cheers,
-Arpadius98
hcvv,
Do you think it is a good idea to add AdBlock Plus to TOR?
Cheers,
-Arpadius98
On 2015-03-24 21:46, Arpadius98 wrote:
>
> Obscurant,
>
> Thank you for the book suggestion! I will check it out! 
>> It seems that you really want something like an adblocking program,
>> because what you seem to want (as opposed to what you first asked for)
>> is not to see the ads
> Yes, indeed. That is what I am looking for, to make sure that I will
> never ever ever ever again get a ad and so that the system will never
> ever ever know where I am (it annoys me, that when I go on
> www.google.com it immidiately says where I am,
Consider using the web as using the post service. You write to the
newspaper and you get sent a paper. It absolutely needs to know your
address! Else there is no way it can send you the paper. Where to?
Of course google, and anything in internet, knows the country you are in.
Using TOR means that instead of requesting the newspaper you ask
somebody else to request it for you. And he sends the request to
somebody else. And this somebody else does the same… with the result
that the newspaper office doesn’t get your address, but somebody else’s
address. The paper gets back to you jumping trough several “houses”.
As TOR is supplied by volunteers, it runs slow.
> and the worst part about
> it is that the local language here is ultra complex (speaking it is even
> more complex) and that when I go on a website to download an app, it is
> in a language I don`t know.
Yes, some web pages try to be clever and provide the page in “your
language”, that is, the language of the country you are in (this is
called “geolocation”). This is stupid. Some offer a method to choose
language, some not.
On google, you can tell it to work in English despite the location.
On the web browser, make sure that you define a preferred language that
you can read, not the local language that you can’t. This usually works
for most sites.
Any proxy would do, not necessarily TOR. Notice that TOR is designed so
that people whose life is in danger if found out, like political
activists, can talk. It is not your situation.
If the TOR people say not to use an add blocker, I’m sure they have
their good reasons — for security (and they explain why in the docs). If
you simply want the web page not to speak klingon to you, then security
is not a concern.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
robin_listas,
On google, you can tell it to work in English despite the location.
I wish that would work, but you see in the country I am, there is basically no such thing called “privacy” on the internet. No matter how hard you try but the system will always once know you are in Denmark. That is why I wanted to use TOR and JonDo (also JonDoFox), what I do is I connect onto a American server, so everything will be in english. On google I have tried that possibility (otherwise I would not use TOR or get any of these things, I get these so I dont get ads and that it doesnt annoy me with the local language), but hadn`t had much luck 
If the TOR people say not to use an add blocker, I’m sure they have
their good reasons — for security (and they explain why in the docs). If
you simply want the web page not to speak klingon to you, then security
is not a concern.
I am also sure. Though thank you for telling me that it causes security problems, because before I had absolutely no idea what happens if I get something for TOR.
Cheers,
-Arpadius98
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:56:01 +0000, Arpadius98 wrote:
> I am also sure. Though thank you for telling me that it causes security
> problems, because before I had absolutely no idea what happens if I get
> something for TOR.
Just a point of clarification - ad blocking software isn’t something you
add to Tor, but you are probably using tor-browser, which is a custom-
rolled Firefox browser that has a tor configuration.
But the browser you’re using isn’t Tor - it’s Firefox. Tor is just
bundled with that particular build of Firefox and uses it.
Just thought I should clarify that. Tor has a lot of interesting
functionality, including being able to be used for non-web traffic
(that’s a more advanced configuration than the tor browser bundle
generally is used for, though).
Jim
–
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openSUSE Forums Administrator
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also the “tor-bundle” has some VERY INSECURE!!! default settings
scripts ARE ALLOWED GLOBALLY!!!
and Java-Script is ON!!! by default ( this WAS!!! USED!!! to unmask a bunch of people on the dark net last year )
you really DO NOT install plugins to the custom built version of Firefox in the “bundle”
**they CAN AND WILL !!! be used against you in a court of law !!! **
but if all you need in NO advertising
no-script
ad block plus
ghostery
will do the trick
On 2015-03-27 21:56, Arpadius98 wrote:
>
> robin_listas,
>
>> On google, you can tell it to work in English despite the location.
> I wish that would work, but you see in the country I am, there is
> basically no such thing called “privacy” on the internet. No matter how
> hard you try but the system will always once know you are in Denmark.
(that’s not the definition of privacy, you are confused)
I have no problems at all in using google in English, despite me using
it in Spain.
I select google.com. I’m redirected to google.es, but I get it in
English. At the bottom-right corner, there is a button labeled “use
google.com”. Clicking there, I get “google.com” in the URL bar, as it
should be.
Also, in firefox, open the preferences dialog, content tab. Press on
“choose your preferred language for displaying pages”, and then make
sure that only English is listed.
That’s all.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
Use Tails on USB stick