Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

Unfortunately not all UEFI are the same some just won’t install anything but Windows.

I note that the ‘edd=off’ is nominally part of the ‘recovery mode’ boot after openSUSE is installed, but it is not an option in the 13.1 boot in the installation DVD for an EFI/GPT system with a ‘safe settings’ boot. If there is not a bug report on the ‘safe settings’ boot not being present as an installation DVD option, I think there should be such a bug report.

wrt a previous recommendation in this thread (to disable LAN adapter) I guess it was worth trying, although my internet surfing suggested that recommendation was to assist some Toshiba users to boot/install an openSUSE-13.1 using a USB stick.

I’ll be curious to learn if the ‘edd=off’ works. … One could also try all the other ‘safe setting’ boot options that are no longer part of the EFI/GPT installation boot (possibly in combination with ‘edd=off’) if that were to fail (by itself).

<grin--------grin> (double-wide grin)

…maybe that’s where I remember seeing it! (He says, blushing profusely!)

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I disabled Fastboot and SecureBoot - made no difference. No place in the BIOS to disable UEFI.
Thanks, Do

Neither alt+F4 nor alt+F5 work. When it stops at Starting udev, it halts and has to be hard rebooted. Before then, the machine does not respond to those key combinations.
Thanks, Do

My error, there is a place in the BIOS to set CSM boot from UEFI boot. I will try after I try edd=off Thanks, Do

I set the line:
linuxefi /boot/x86_64/ loader/linux edd=off
with no change in result.
What are the other safe settings I might use?
Thanks, Do

With UEFI boot changed to CSM boot, the DVD comes up with a normal installer screen. I assume I will have no more problems.

Before I install via the std CSM method, I would be glad to try other suggestions for booting via UEFI. I will be off-line for the next few days, but if there are any other things to test on trying to install from the UEFI boot, I will be glad to try them when I return.
Thank you very much for the thought and assistance you all put into this. Looks like UEFI/openSUSE is still a work in progress.
Thanks, Do

I would be more inclined to say: “It looks like UEFI/Toshiba is still a work in progress.”

Oh, shoot…

I was hoping, since that appeared to be the last error just before you froze, that might be the answer! Sorry.

I think oldcpu might have a few things in mind that you could try, though. What about it, o-c?

(For the record, I think that UEFI probably should be pronounced “oofy”, especially since it seems each manufacturer seems to be custom-implementing it and adding their own personal “G” to the front of it … making it Goofy!)

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wrt boot codes using the ‘failsafe’ (or safesetting), my recollection from rather poor quality notes is:

  • boot codes for openSUSE-12.2 Failsafe :
    .
    apm=off noresume edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 nomodeset x11failsafe vga=0x314
    .
  • boot codes from openSUSE-12.3 Failsafe :
    .
    apm=off noresume edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 nomodeset x11failsafe
    .

I don’t have an openSUSE-13.1 system running right now with access (my Ultrabook with 13.1 is at the office, and my sandbox PC with 13.1 is not currently available).

But the OP could try all or a combination of the 12.2 or 12.3 boot codes.

The E stands for extensible which like a rubber band when it breaks, snaps back painfully. I think it is an excellent idea, just the implementations seem a bit garbled. Maybe that’s where the ‘G’ comes in.
Ciao, Do

None of the suggestions worked. The installation process still stopped at Starting udev …
Any more ideas before I install with the CSM boot?
Thanks, Do

Well, as opposed to CSM boot, did you try booting with Secure Boot disabled ?

Yes, I did.

If it starts with CSM boot, then you are probably seeing BIOS problems.

You’ve probably tried this: does it make any difference if you reboot from a successful running system (such as windows, or linux started with CSM), compared to a cold boot?

I’m thinking that your BIOS is not properly initializing all of the hardware when in UEFI mode. This would be because Microsoft mandated fast startup, and leaving some of the hardware initialization to the operating system.

I do not have a working OS on the machine. I refused to accept the MS EULA for Win 8. You may be quite correct, that MS mandated part of the hardware initialization to the operating system. That was my suspicion from the beginning with my original question, though I did not put it so well as you.

Do I need to accept the Microsoft EULA (Yecch …) and let it prep the disks before installing 13.1?

I will install with CSM boot and then see if I can install via EUFI. Good idea!
Thank you all for your great attempts at trying to get openSUSE 13.1 installed on this Toshiba C855D-S5900 without accepting an egregious EULA.
Regards, Do