Installer partitioning too smart - Simplest terminal install to preformated LVM?

Hello guys

I am trying to install latest 12.1 opensuse with grub2 booted ISOfile and USB-DVDimage and both insist on removing my existing partitions with LVM.

It is not my first opensuse install but it was long ago and last I used simple one disk machine.
This is 5 disk with GPT partiotions striped in raid10 raid5 raid1 with LVMs all around the place running Xen hypervisor both one Source compile and and one latest Ubuntu 12.04. I wanted to add two installs for comparsion with current OpenSuse Xen hypervisor and run one source compiled on OpenSuse.

I find the installer very nice to look at, but in my case completely useless. There is no way to block installers artifical inteligence, which insists on destroying two partitions with bunch oh LVMs on them.

I have read a similar threadExpert partitioner gone wild in 12.2 RC1
Started by mister_dbk, 23-Jul-2012 00:04

There is suggested to remove all but one disk, but I cant imagine that in my system as there are no free disk spaces and I need 2 openSuse each in it’s own LVM inside existing RAIDs.

I really miss something like debootstrap here, but I could use anything else. I just can’t find any simple manual - character mode way to run opensuse install, or a way to persuade standard installer to stop removing my partitions.

As it is now, I can not test openSuse to run my VM farm on opensuse, and I would really like to.

Any way to install in terminal mode - non-inteligent install?

Thanks.

Warm regards virtualusr

On 07/25/2012 08:16 PM, virtualusr wrote:
> both insist on removing my existing partitions with LVM…no way to
> block installers artifical inteligence,.

first: welcome new poster!!

“insist”? and “no way”??

how so?

on this page
http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/art.osuse.installquick.html,
paragraph 7 and its graphic:

are both of the buttons labeled “Create Partition Setup” and “Edit
Partition Setup” missing, or grayed out and not clickable?

yes, i can well understand that the installer may have suggested a
plan that you don’t like/want, but unless it also took away your options
to not accept the suggestion and change it, i wouldn’t agree that it is
insisting to do its way, or else…

to do a terminal mode install i think you just need to press F3 on the
first green screen…if not press F1 and see if it tells you (i don’t
remember)

oh, if you don’t like the looks of the installer’s partitioner, another
way to do it is to use a Live CD (like partition magic) to set up your
file system exactly the way you want it, along with certain space set up
exactly where you want it, and as much as you want, for what ever you
wanna install, and THEN boot from the openSUSE install and it might
‘see’ the empty partitions and suggest an install plan that you do like…

if not, just click the “Edit Partition Setup” (which probably should
read “Edit the suggested partion plan” and just tell it where to
install what…


dd

No, No
www.su2root.ukfsn.org/files/12.2_liveCD_Install/12.2_Install_Slideshow.mkv

On 07/25/2012 10:16 PM, caf4926 wrote:
> No, No
> http://tinyurl.com/c9pzlqz

i believe you know best, but i can’t read at that link, because:

“404 - Not Found”

wait! this works (it is on 12.2 and the Q on 12.1–but it should be
instructive to the OP):

http://www.su2root.ukfsn.org/files/12.2_liveCD_Install/12.2_Install_Slideshow.mkv


dd

Rub the Lamp…

http://www.su2root.ukfsn.org/files/12.1_install/12.1_slideshow_install.m4v

or maybe this is a bug in the installation’s partitioner!

see this other active/just popped up thread:
http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=476991

if so, someone affected/experiencing the bug should see if there is
already a bug against 12.1 (hopefully closed because then it might be
that it works in the 1.2 installer), and if not then someone should open
a bug…

maybe the OP in this thread could test the 12.2 installer, from here:
http://software.opensuse.org/developer/


dd

> Rub

LOL

dd

On 2012-07-26 08:46, caf4926 wrote:
>
> Rub the Lamp…
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cgvw3hz

I get a full black display in FF… crash in xine… ah, I get it in mplayer.
Mmm… Nice.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

If I want to use existing partitions, I always have to go to expert mode. That usually works quite well.

In your case, you are using RAID and GPT partitions. I have no experience with those, and perhaps they complicate the problem.

SOLVED!
Thanks to all of you guys for suggestions. My mistake was to try to change proposed partition scheme. I could change to NOT format and NOT mount partiotions, but I could not prevent initial suggestion to remove the two existing partitions.

The click I made wrong was “Edit Partition Setup”. When I chose “Create Partition Setup” everything works perfectly.

OpenSuse 12.1 reports error to later boot grub into LVM and truly does not work, 12.2 coplains the same BUT later it works perfectly with grub2 into LVM in Raid 1 in GPT partiotion. COOL, just like the latest Ubuntu. Just OpenSuse grub2 seems not to be able to boot ubuntu with grub2, but I can live with that.

Also does the Xen hypervisor work, with some naming differences in console name, disk partitions (yet to fix), but it basically works faster than I expected. Developers, respect. I will try to run the same VMachines in either Ubuntu or OpenSuse. I need to be sure to always have a running backup hypervisor.

Long term goal to be able to move running VMs between Suse and Ubuntu based Xen, even if need to compile XenSource.

Thanks again
Best regards

One more question…

I still miss debootstrap in opensuse. How do you guys remotely deploy openSuse without something like debootstrap?

Regrads

On 07/28/2012 02:36 PM, virtualusr wrote:
>
> One more question…

now, the subject of this thread has nothing to do with debootstrap nor
deploying openSUSE (not openSuse)…so, my (free to you) advice would be
to begin a new thread with all of these words in the subject: deploying
12.1 without debootstrap

and, maybe the person with your quick answer might soon see it.

> I still miss debootstrap in opensuse. How do you guys remotely deploy
> openSuse without something like debootstrap?

what would something like debootstrap do? (obviously i’ve never
encountered the distro that has a debootstrap so i can’t imagine what it
does, or how we would accomplish the same task…so, consider expanding
your new thread’s question with a little more info…


dd

When I chose “Create Partition Setup” everything works perfectly.
Sure

Which is what I said
At least if you noticed in my guide…