Installation problem

Hi All, I hope somebody can help me with this, I am running windows 7 at the mo and want to install opensuse. I have downloaded virtualbox and set it up, I have downloaded opensuse to my memory stick. when I run virtualbox I get the error message Fatal: INT18: Boot failure This is as expected as opensuse is not yet loaded on to my drives. I also realise that I need to make my USB drive The priority drive to boot from. In windows 7’s bios setup It does not list my USB drive and so I cannot set it as the priority 1 drive. Can anybody suggest How to Make my USB the priority drive? or maybe suggest another Installation Method. I am getting very frustrated with this:X:?

If you want to contact me directly I will send an email address.

On 07/02/2013 07:26 AM, deprima wrote:
>
> If you want to contact me directly I will send an email address.

-=WELCOME=- new poster who wants to try openSUSE!!

don’t send an email address…questions/answers here are for you
and the next person with the same problem who googles in…

do you want to install and run openSUSE in the VM you installed and
are running in Win7?

OR are you wanting to install openSUSE directly on to your machine,
and have the ability to boot to either?

i ask because your “This is as expected as opensuse is not yet loaded
on to my drives.” sounds like you want to load it onto your machine
(in which case no VM is needed) while just mentioning VBox makes it
sound like you do not want to load it “on to my drives” but instead
you are wanting to "install openSUSE into VBox and run it there)…

which is it you want to do?

depending on how you answer you are either asking in the wrong
openSUSE forum or the wrong forum all together…


dd
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Hi Thanks very much for your very prompt reply. I basically want to install it on my machine but was advised that running it on a virtual machine may be an easier installation process so I tried and got the results as I mentioned. I could be wrong But it seems to me that my problem is the same, whichever method I choose to use, In that I can’t seem to load it from my USB stick as I can’t make it boot since I can’t see my device listed in the setup menu in the bios. So any help would be gratefully received. Thanks:)

On 07/02/2013 08:46 AM, deprima wrote:
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> it seems to me that my problem is the same

no, your machine’s bios has nothing to do with installing any OS into
any VM…that is to say that running an OS in a VM does not require
you to boot from the USB containing the OS’ iso…

instead you boot windows (no need to look at the bios or the USB to
be seen by the bios), then launch the VM (still no need to look at
the bios) and then install whatever OS you want into the VM by
directly loading the new OS iso into the VM following the procedures
for the VM in use…how you do that has nothing to do with which
particular OS you want to run in the VM…

as far as i can tell from your posts, you have not yet got to that
point because you think you must boot from the USB (which is only
necessary if you want to install openSUSE on to your hard drive, and
not into a running VM)

i think your next step should be to read up on how to use an iso to
install an OS into VBox you can do that from a USB stick, or even
directly from your hard drive–it is NOT required to ‘install’
openSUSE on to your harddive in order to give the VM access to the
iso image…

does that make sense? if not please press the triangular shaped icon
at the bottom of this message and ask a moderator to move your thread
to the Virtualization forum, because so far you do not have an
openSUSE install problem, but rather a how-to-setup-and-use-a-VM
problem…


dd

You would need to boot from that USB stick if you wanted to install it on your real machine.

For VirtualBox, your virtual machine should already have a virtual CD/DVD drive, just insert the openSUSE ISO image you downloaded…
Click on “Storage” on the right part of the VirtualBox Manager window:
http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/02/vbox.png

Then select the CD/DVD drive and insert the image:
http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/02/vbox1.png

If you don’t have a virtual CD/DVD drive (should be there by default), you have to add one first. Just select the Controller and click on “Add Attachment” below the list (the first symbol that looks like a disk with a ‘+’ sign).

After that, when you start the vm, it should directly boot to the openSUSE installer…

On 2013-07-02 07:26, deprima wrote:
>
> Hi All, I hope somebody can help me with this, I am running windows 7 at
> the mo and want to install opensuse. I have downloaded virtualbox and
> set it up, I have downloaded opensuse to my memory stick. when I run
> virtualbox I get the error message Fatal: INT18: Boot failure This is
> as expected as opensuse is not yet loaded on to my drives. I also
> realise that I need to make my USB drive The priority drive to boot
> from. In windows 7’s bios setup It does not list my USB drive and so I

Hold on. You need the emulated bios inside virtual box virtual machine
to see the stick, not the real bios of your machine. In fact, you do not
even need a stick, just tell virtualbox to emulate a DVD with the iso
image file you downloaded.

Of course, you also need to create an empty virtual machine, with an
emulated hard disk space of, say, 12 GB, in virtual box.

> If you want to contact me directly I will send an email address.

No, no, questions on the forum are answered in the forum. If there is
need for a private message, then the forum has private messages, too.
That’s for private messages, not technical questions like this.

Ah, you should ask a moderator to move this post to the virtualization
forum. There is a report button below.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Hi , guys I want to thank you all for your replies,I am very grateful for them. Please just let me clarify what I was trying to achieve. First, Having got fed up with windows, I decided to try to install opensuse, so I downloaded it from the website no probs. I then looked to see how to install it and decided to use a usb stick to do it. Having loaded the stick, I then went into the bios set up to make the usb the priority drive to boot up (as advised) However, I could not see it listed although hard drive and cd/dvd drives were.Puzzled by this, I tried to resolving this by posting as a question on various forums as how to identify in the boot menu, how the usb device is listed. As of yet no answers, Having looked at various web sites at different ways of installing, virtualbox looked as if it would do the job but as yet no joy. Since then I purchased a dvd disc and burned the files to disc, but when I boot up it does not boot up into the opensuse installation screen. so I am unsure what to do next. I do not want a virtual machine, I would really just like to Install opensuse on my hard drive and forget about windows. I am sorry if this is a bit of a long winded reply but just wanted to let you know what it was I was trying to achieve. So thanks again for all your help.
cheers deprima

Ok first off exactly how did you get the iso image onto 1 the USB sick and 2 the DVD?

For USB - If you just copied it it will not work you have to use a program like Imagewriter or dd to do a low leve/binaryl copy not a file copy
full instructions here
https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick

For DVD- the same you can’t just copy the file you need to burn it as an ISO. Your burn software should have that as an option.

Also help to know if you have a BIOS based machine or UEFI based one. You can have either but there are differences.

On 2013-07-02 21:16, deprima wrote:

> Hi , guys I want to thank you all for your replies,I am very grateful
> for them. Please just let me clarify what I was trying to achieve.

gogalthorp has explained the issue quite well, I will just comment on
one thing.

> screen. so I am unsure what to do next. I do not want a virtual machine,
> I would really just like to Install opensuse on my hard drive and forget
> about windows.

A virtual installation (virtualboX or vmware player) is a good way to
try Linux and see if you like it. If you do, then install it for real.

Mind you, getting completely rid of Windows is often impossible, by the
way. It depends on your needs. For instance, I need it for maintenance
of some gadgets, like phones, car navigators, ebooks and readers with
drm… Many are not supported in Linux, unfortunately (or not
completely). I have to boot Windows about once or twice a month.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On 07/03/2013 12:08 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I have to boot Windows about once or twice a month.

on the other hand, with my personal long standing policy to not buy
products which require Windows: i last booted Windows uncountable
over three or four days in May 2011…immediately after buying the
machine i’m now using (my previous having suffered a catastrophic
hardware failure)…the new machine came with Win7 installed and i
had to use that to download an openSUSE 11.4 image, find and install
a CD burner program, and download a billion ‘updates’ (requiring
those uncountable boots) to the installed Win7…

once the automatic updates let up enough for me to use the machine i
installed openSUSE, and have not booted Windows since.

ymmv. i get along fine with no Windows, others do also…but it is
very true that some can not.

until you know for sure, i would suggest that you install Linux in a
dual-boot configuration (can select at boot which to run: Linux or
Windows)


dd

On 2013-07-03 07:46, dd wrote:
> On 07/03/2013 12:08 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> I have to boot Windows about once or twice a month.
>
> on the other hand, with my personal long standing policy to not buy
> products which require Windows:

I can’t! :frowning:

I got an smartphone recently, a Samsung galaxy mini 2, which is a minor
device of that class. Well, to update the Android on it I had to use
Kies, a software that only runs on Windows.

The updates to the thing can be done via wifi, but somethings require
connecting to the Windows laptop.

I refused to buy a smartphone with Windows mobile, I thought that
Android was the thing to have - but I can’t get rid of Windows! :frowning:

Sure, I don’t use it for anything else, I do all my computing in Linux.
It is just the gadgetry modern life requires one to have which needs
Windows.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)