I want to use the stable working Leap 42.1 on my PC. I choose normal Installation (from DVD), configurated everything like the Installation-Menu said (the only settings I changed was that from the 500GB - 300GB should stay unformated (for Windows) - so I do advanced setting to smaller /home for 300GB). There I tryed 2 option with this settings (2 Times Installation) one Option was with installing untested updates one withought (all other packes I checked like Installation-Menu said). I tryed this Installations from one 500GB sATA Device, I tryed to run this Installation when this Device was unformated (cleaned with windows98 fdisk), I tryed it formated and reformated (from windows7 and Linux [from a USB Stick formated or from further Linux Installation-Try].
At the End, when I try to boot from the Installation the System wont Work and gave me some cool Text Line with about 66 Letters - looks realy cool - I wrote them down on paper rotfl! .
I do not know why it won’t work, from this USB-Stick (8GB) everything works fine. From The 500GB Windows works good.
Maybe I should try 13.2? Or maybe you could Help me out?
Dammit - I wrote these Words down, but i throw the paper away. Funny Words and letters - Non Sense but funny with smileys and something like that. At least it was an error or something.
Now I installed Linux 13.2 with a Linux Boot-Loader to start Windows 7 too.
The installation (Leap and 13.2 Version) didn’t worked because I did’t selected the LVM-Suggestion for Installation on the same Harddrive with Windows.
LVM is not needed for dual boot? LVM is a special container that can be used for various things but is not a requirement
You may need to boot the installer in EFI mode rather then legacy mode but that totally depends on how Windows was installed. If you install two OS in different boot modes one can not see the other to chain to it.
The installation of Linux 13.2 didn’t work without LVM. So I thought it is necessary.
I did tried the installation without LVM many times, with several Boot-Loader options, most I missed the Boot-Loader configuration and an installation error appeared. But if the installation without LVM worked the system didn’t started. When the Boot-Loader should start (at the time when the PC starting up and it should boot from Hard-disk) there is only a black Window with a white blinking _ . No Linux or Windows starting up.
I have now 13.2 working fine on my 500GB Hard-disk. I installed first Windows for 350GB (it took 2 partitions - one 500MB System-Reservated/one for Windows7) and then Linux 13.2 (with LVM, without home-partition, without extended swap - The Boot-Loader is GRUB2, starting from Boot-partition, with aktiv-flag).
When I try to install Linux Leap 42.1 the same way (LVM) it won’t work (The installation just hang up on 1% all the time - I tryed about hours - Also I tried with several variations without LVM).
I would rather use Leap Version, or try it (I do not know much about Linux - and so I could learn in the newest Version).
**I have wrote down to start the Installation Setup in EFI - Mode (not legacy - Mode). Can you tell me more about that before I try?
**Maybe a short How-To? (I try not to delete my Windows Installation, to reinstall would take about 50hours (with time for downloads).
Also is this an EFI BIOS machine?? If so I’d recommend EFI BOOT on a GPT partitioned drive. On DOS is is MBR style boot these are different and do not mix. So each OS should use the same boot method.
It is not hard to install but you do need to understand partitions. DOS style is limited to 4 primary partitions one of which can be extended which then can hold large number of logical partitions
GPT can have any number of primary partitions and there is no extended allowed.
Default openSUSE uses for legacy booting swap (about size of memory) root (depending on file system 20-40gig (BTRFS 40+ EXT4 20-30) and home which contains your data and thus as large as you need. With EFI boot you add a small FAT partition (about 100 meg) that is shared by all OS in use that is mounted in openSUSE as /boot/efi. This is the EFI boot partition used by the EFI BIOS to start any OS installed.
A general observation…
My compliments on partitioning your system to install first three OS and then trying to install a fourth OS.
As described, particularly because a normal Linux install configures a swap partition, if you’re doing legacy non-gpt partitioning, you’ve exceeded your limit on a single disk.
If you’re installing to simply play around, and then throw away (or not use) an OS, this is a very inflexible way to experiment with OS. Each partition allocated to each OS is space another OS can’t or shouldn’t use, so on a 500GB disk, even two full OS complete with graphical desktop and applications are going to be cozy. A third full OS with graphical Desktop or more likely is going to make each OS highly restricted in what you might be able to install and run.
If you’re purely playing around, I’d highly recommend you consider settling on one OS and then running any additional OS virtualized. The big difference then is that you don’t have to “waste” space allocating space for eventual use… Virtualization typically supports “growable” disks which start small sized for only the files actually installed and expand as needed. This enables you to <over provision> which means that in the beginning the total sizes of your virtual disk space can far exceed the real, physical limit of your 500GB hard drive without sacrificing anything significant.or noticeable.
One of the prime benefits of using virtualization is disposability. Unlike a multi-boot which is what you’re doing that makes changes to your boot process that is hard to undo, virtualized OS can be deleted simply(yes, an ordinary file delete) without affecting any other system.
Hey TSU2 - Thank you for your scientifically studies - Yeah, it make my laugh
Not because it wouldn’t be correct but because your studies are so good and so wrong (at the same time). You misunderstood me, I do not want 4 OS at one HD. And I do not want to through away my work afterwards.
I want to start over with Linux now. For the first time I tried Linux when I was about 14 years, now 17Years later I will use it (with 14 I stopped try, it was a mistake because this OS is a real good one -maybe the better one than Windows). I want 2 OS, Windows for everything - Linux especially for working in the WWW (like e-mail, surfing or a well-paid over internet), learning to control my PC-System (Security like Backup, Virus-Scan etc.) and using better Programs like Office etc.). These 2 OS should work together, Linux Leap 42.1 and Windows 7.
gogalthorp - Thank you so far, I try to understand more - You helping me out here, I’m learning
I use DOS legacy partitioning. I already found out that I have a max. partitions (First I tryed to split my HD in 250GB-Windows, 100GB-Share/Data (without OS), and 100GB Linux), because that max. was reached I installed 350GB Windows and share my Files on this partition (I do not like it because I like to see my file on a separate partition) and 100GB Linux (that always need to use the files from the Windows Partition).
I think I use EFI. I can see it on the 100MB System-reservated partition that comes with the Windows.
Agreed, it’s likely you’re using RAID with different RAID volumes assigned which have different file formats (NTFS and ext4). That can get very messy and you have to think carefully how these volumes co-exist on the same array.
It’s a lot cleaner to run your OS on single disks and if you wish data on RAID, but that is only if you really want or need the benefits of a particular RAID.
