Remove preload/preload-kmp-desktop with yast if it gives you problems.
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Ok so i’ve removed preload and preload-kmp-desktop and nothing changed.
CPU is used by tracker, and if i kill this process, then another one will use the CPU (60% in general)
And booting with “init 3” doesn’t solve my problem.
Another thing that can be really important : if I boot on openSUSE and then reboot on win7, my touchpad and my GPU doesn’t work anymore (some problem of conflict)
To bypass this problem, I have to shutdown my laptop, wait (like 30sec) and then boot on Win7.
Other thing: that’s not the first time i try to use openSUSE, but last time it was in win7 with a Sun VirtualBox, and guess what, the system was very slow like it was last week when i created this topic.
So maybe something in my laptop is incompatible with openSUSE ?
n0tnull wrote:
>
> CPU is used by tracker, and if i kill this process, then another one
> will use the CPU (60% in general)
You can remove tracker just for testing at the moment (you will loose some
search functionality).
Open a terminal and type
su -
zypper rm tracker
zypper al tracker
it will uninstall several other packages - accept it - it will not make your
system unusable.
The reason I tell you this is to investigate there the real problems come
from.
The zypper al command adds a lock so that tracker is not reinstalled
automatically.
Reboot the system (yes this is very un-linux-like and not completely needed
but it makes in a simple way sure you have a clean playground to watch your
system behaviour).
> Another thing that can be really important : if I boot on openSUSE and
> then reboot on win7, my touchpad and my GPU doesn’t work anymore (some
> problem of conflict)
> To bypass this problem, I have to shutdown my laptop, wait (like 30sec)
> and then boot on Win7.
>
Here I am out of ideas for the moment some multimedia guru’s may have a good
idea how to find the root cause.
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I just don’t understand how it will improve something.
Even if i boot in console only, the system seems to have a strange way to use the CPU… the simple “top” use 40-70% of my CPU ! it’s not something that can be explained easily.
Anyway, I’ve also remove tracker and now when I boot it’s gnome-do, Xorg, or any other random process that have 60-70% of CPU usage…
Like i said in my previous post, killing or removing a process doesn’t fix anything. It worked with nVidia proprietary drivers and nouveau but that’s all.
Is there a way to get more info on what’s wrong with the system ?
n0tnull wrote:
>
> I just don’t understand how it will improve something.
> Even if i boot in console only, the system seems to have a strange way
> to use the CPU… the simple “top” use 40-70% of my CPU ! it’s not
> something that can be explained easily.
>
Is that a boot to runlevel 3?
I obviously misunderstood your post about the tracker. The idea was to
remove it to see what happens afterwards, to see if it is a tracker specific
issue or if the next process runs wild.
The latter seems obviously to be the case.
It is difficult to see a problem if several problems exist at the same time
so the intention was to remove one after the other to see what happens
afterwards.
My suggestion was not a random thought, I hade myself exactly the preload
issue and the tracker issue with gnome on the netbook (which is also asus
but beside that of course completely different hardware), after removing
both the cpu usage was low and remained low, so I decided to live without
them - your mileage may vary. Later I switched back to KDE on the netbook
(without seeing any problems with that) so I now do not know if there is
again a problem with gnome.
I hoped for the best and that you simply had the same two issues with
preload and tracker.
You say the simple top uses 40-70% of the cpu, do you really say that the
process top uses that much cpu? But I think you mean what you write in the
next sentence or not?
> Anyway, I’ve also remove tracker and now when I boot it’s gnome-do,
> Xorg, or any other random process that have 60-70% of CPU usage…
That I have never seen before and since I can only tell you how to handle
situations I experienced myself I am really clueless here.
> Like i said in my previous post, killing or removing a process doesn’t
> fix anything. It worked with nVidia proprietary drivers and nouveau but
> that’s all.
If I were you I would do a plain stupid test to see if all that is somehow
related to a glitch with openSUSE and your hardware. Download a live cd for
linux mint or something else which uses the gnome desktop. Boot into the
live system without installing and watch if the other distro has the same
problems. And if it works there is the choice to install the other distro or
to compare what is different (kernel version, used drivers …) and try to
find the same packages/drivers for openSUSE.
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Yes, runlevel 3. I’ve used that a lot with fedora…
Now, i understand why you told me all these things about preload and tracker…
Top use 40-70% of my CPU.
The odd thing was that my system was very slow even in runlevel 3…
I never had such a strange problem with LiveCD or with Fedora (install).
I’ve tried other distros and they worked well…
I don’t think it’s a problem with Gnome because the installation was slow too so it must be some kind of kernel problem with my laptop…
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You can’t win against Murphy’s Laws… ><
Well or not so well I like openSUSE very much but I guess (nobody else
jumped in that thread again so I think nobody else has had the same problem
as you) that this is for the moment one of the cases where you should use
another distro you like.
Honestly for the moment I would do that in such a case except you feel fun
figuring out the cause of the problem 
A really blind shot would be to simply update the kernel to 2.6.38 from the
kernel:stable repository and see what happens or even downgrade to an older
one, it seems fedora uses 2.6.35 is that right? So there are still some
options left but I don’t want to waste your time since this are now really
wild guesses from my side what might work or not.
Since you are not a new linux user without experience: Anything in dmesg or
/var/log/messages, boot.log, boot.msg which looks like a problem?
I guess you already checked that.
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I really want to use openSUSE 
(and with my luck, i’m almost sure that i’ll have some “funky” bugs with other distros… (except gentoo…))
I’ll try to downgrade the kernel. How can i force a version with zypper ?
And i have some experience, that’s true, but I’ve never had such bugs so I don’t check those log files every time (that’s bad, i know)
Here is a problem that can have something to do with my problem:
mcelog: failed to prefill DIMM database from DMI data
If you want me to post “messages” and “boot” log on the forum, just ask for it.
Upgrade is easy you add the stable kernel repository
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/
and then choose in yast the version 2.6.38
With downgrade I was not very clear, what I meant is using 11.3 as your base
system instead which has the older kernel. You when still have the
possibility to use the current gnome and kde versions with 11.3 by adding
the corresponding repositories
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.32/openSUSE_11.3/
or
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/46/openSUSE_11.3/
so you do not stick with old versions of the desktop. By the way this is
exactly what I use on my PC.
Same for firefox and libreoffice and other applications, just your base
system including the kernel is a few months older.
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martin_helm wrote:
> Upgrade is easy you add the stable kernel repository
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/
> and then choose in yast the version 2.6.38
>
I have of course to add that you have then to install the nvidia driver the
“hard way” by using the binary installer from the nvidia website.
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Ok so I’ve installed the new kernel from the stable kernel repositories that you gave me, then installed nVidia driver with the .run.
After a reboot, I start normally (= Xorg is running), and same problem. So, at that time, it’s not a surprise. But now is the strangest thing i’ve seen…
I close my laptop => suspend mode (I’ve forgot it will do that at first)
So I re-open my laptop and press a key to “resume”, and after that… NO more problem !
I just don’t know why. It’s something magical. You were talking about multimedia gurus, and at this point with all these things happening, i have to agree that it’s the only one who can understand the situation…
just some observation.
swap, I run a few Unix servers at work with plenty of memory but if I do not have enough swap allocated some processes do weird stuff. I am not sure how Linux and Unix compare in that way. It was just the 1st thing I thought of when I read your original post. Although I agree 4Gb is enough, but my work unix servers got 64GB and enough free but still
As for your last comment, when coming out of suspend lots of stuff gets restarted I would guess, could it be that your CPU is not running at its max speed ? cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep “cpu MHz” should show your the current speed (per CPU core), on this system its toggles between 1600 and 2668. I can imagine that if a CPU is throttled down enough that simple processes like top use a far to large amount of cpu power % wise.
Just some thoughts, hope something helps you.
Let me say at least: I am completely baffled.
Did you repeat that?
Is the problem permanently gone or do you need after a fresh reboot always
that trick to make it behave as it should?
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Xilanaz > I don’t use swap on my laptop, and I hadn’t any problem before, so maybe oS is special on that point… I can’t test with swap (unless full format + create partition again…)
Martin > It solve my problem but it’s a temporary solution because i have to do it each time i want to use oS. (no “magic” solution but it’s a beginning…)
So now the question is: what does the resume do to fix my problem ? If i can find out the specific “magic” function, it will be great (and the end of my quest). Any specialist on the forum ?
So what is the CPU speed before and after suspend ? or forthat just compare /proc/cpuinfo before and after, maybe there is a difference there ?
I’ve saved the output of “cat /proc/cpuinfo” before and after the suspend. And it’s the same result, nothing changed.
On 2011-04-24 20:36, n0tnull wrote:
> So now the question is: what does the resume do to fix my problem ? If
> i can find out the specific “magic” function, it will be great (and the
> end of my quest). Any specialist on the forum ?
Lots of things.
Many scripts are started before and after suspend. You would have to try
one by one, with some tinkering to fool them into running. They are under
/usr/lib/pm-utils.
I would think of bugzilla at this point.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)