I tried several days ago to install Tumbleweed as an upgrade. It went as far as the dark screen with green bar at bottom and stayed there for almost an hour. I don’t believe that to be normal. Did I do something wrong?
How did you upgrade and how far did you get your description probably won’t tell anyone anything
I can not tell what I do not know.
What happens before you get the screen you describe?
And you really don’t know how you preformed the upgrade??
Upgrade is just an English word. On the computer is simply means “to go to a newer version of some software”. In this case a newer version of openSUSE. But that can be done in several ways. I know of at least three:
- using the Upgrade function of the installation DVD;
- changing the repos and doing zypper dup;
- install fresh while keeping /home (and other user data).
All of these will give you an upgraded openSUSE
When you do not know what you did, how can we know?
It seems almost certain you did
or
You simply lack the acumen
Between last night and this morning I went through the trouble of re-downloading Leap42 and Tumbleweed. I tried a fresh install and upgrade from each disk. Both of the disk stop at the dark screen with the green bar, and will not proceed any further. If this is to be expected then someone please tell me so.
I will no longer consider myself or my hardware to be the problem.
Why? That was not suggested from anybody here.
Again confusing. Did you a fresh install, when yes, the keep it at that. Then we know what we are talking about.
When you did an Upgrade, then please from what did you upgrade to what and how?
That is not as it should be. We do not say you do not have a problem, but we have to know as exact and precise as possible what you did. So either present us the case of a fresh Leap 42.1 installation or some other case, but not a mix. And have that installation then available so that people here can ask you further questions without you then saying: I did already overwrite this with something different.
It is not expect so need to know exactly when this screen appears? is this during or after the install?? What did you do or see immediately before the screen you say appears?
What video card do you have?
Still do not know what method you use to upgrade??? There is more then one way!
From your posts to this point,
I assume you’re upgrading using DVDs (from downloaded ISO).
You should also describe what you are upgrading from as well as to.
You can review the official recommended steps when upgrading
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade
Be sure you have plenty of free disk space before you upgrade, empty your Trash and maybe even move or copy any/all your personal files to other storage for safekeeping during your upgrade. The new OS will be at least about 1 GByte, and you’ll probably need more temporary space for unpacking, backups and more. Total unused space should be at least maybe 3GB, to be safe at least 5 GB. If you have a lot of applications installed, you should either uninstall with the idea of re-installing later (typically best if possible) or allow for more space and time.
Now, the upgrade itself…
The upgrade will go through some stages…
- Some detection and inventorying what you have installed.
- Unpack and download (or copy from DVD) packages for the new OS.
- If you are downloading from the Internet, it can take a long time.
- Actual Installation
- Finish up
If your’re installing new, then <before> the above stages
- Your disk needs to be analyzed for unformatted free space
- You will be prompted for how you want to lay out your free space for your new install
- The free space is partitioned and formatted
- A system is rebooted before continueing more or less as described for the upgrade.
The additional stages for a <new install> can take awhile but normally should not be more than maybe 15 minutes even on very old, decrepit hardware. IMO the biggest cause for a hang as you described is inadequate free, unpartitioned and unformatted space (I’ve seen that). A new install requires lots of free space, the more the better… Maybe 100 GB would be a reasonable practical minimum?
If you experience long delays, then you need to describe exactly the last thing you see before the long delay. Upgrading to LEAP and TW will both take a very long time because (1) LEAP is the first of its architecture so it’s very different in many ways from whatever you’re upgrading from and (2) if you’re upgrading to Tumbleweed, every TW release is a brand new entire image with massive changes even from one TW version to another.
And, particularly if you experience your long delay when you first insert and run your DVD, then you need to run a checksum to make sure the install media isn’t faulty.
TSU
Tried to install Leap once again from DVD. After 20 minutes I got past that screen. But then it thought I had a 40 inch monitor everything was so large I couldn’t guess what it was asking of me. So I had to exit out of upgrade.
Have you considered that your GPU may be presenting some issues? Perhaps try ‘nomodeset’ or consider a text mode installation ( I mention that and now I’m not 100% sure it’s an available option )
This would be the first time my pc has behaved in this manner.
I just recently re-installed my 13.1 system, wanted to do away with my dual boot system.
It did not behave in that manner at that time.
How do I go about upgrading using this process.
Basicaly:
- make an extra backup;
- remove (or disable so you can change their URL later and then re-enable them) all non standard repos, only OSS, non-OSS and their Update repos should stay enabled;
- change the URL of those repos still active to point to the new version;
- zypper dup;
- of course check if everything went OK;
- add the new Packman repo and do the switch to Packman;
- eventual add repos for other software you need (or change their URL and re-enable tjem), but check that you only use repos that belong to your new openSUSE version.
Most important: do not mix repos that belong to different openSUSE versions.
Maybe others can improve on this. Also this method is described here on the forums several times. Search for it.
Im guessing zypper and yast has big differences, and that I need to download zypper.
zypper is installed by default and does not need to be installed unless you removed it.
Yast does not have direct provision for moving between OS versions zypper does. dup = distribution update
does zypper offer a gui, and does this procedure offer a gui.
zypper is command line
man zypper to see the manual
No
However, I have upgrade (eg: 13.1 > 13.2) a machine by:
Change the repos in Yast > Software > Repos to the new url’s
Then Yast > Software Management and view by repos
‘SYSTEM’ should be the default view once you toggle the view by repo, repo view isn’t there by default and needs to be toggled
Then > right click in to the packages list of the system view and do ‘upgrade all in this list unconditionally’
You will likely have to deal with some questions to proceed.
My success is no guarantee and may be be the product of luck rather than good judgement.