I have the following hardware:-
Main board:- INTEL DP67BGB3 - LGA1155
CPU:- INTEL CORE i7-2600 3.40GHZ
Memory Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8GB 1600
HDD Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB SATA3 7200rpm
VGA Point of View Nvidia GTX570 GDDR5
BIOS set to boot from EFI.
Using Diskpart, hard disk set to gpt
I installed Windoze 7 first then tried to install Suse 11.4 x64. It went through the installation process only to end with the message that grub cannot boot GPT partitions.
When I try to install with ELILO it crashes/freezes after loading initrd.
When in the BIOS I change the SATA mode from AHCI to IDE I can start the installation. I then uncheck the ‘Auto Config’ but there is no Grub2 or Elilo to choose from in the software list! Why doesn’t the 64 bit installation DVD contain either the grub2 or elilo software?
In short how do I get round this Murphy mayhem! I bought these components a month ago and I have tried practically everything and read hundreds of pages hoping to solve this before posting here.
On 2011-10-06 21:36, ghep wrote:
> only to end with the message that
> grub cannot boot GPT partitions.
Which is true, you probably have to reinstall windows with traditional
partitioning.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
That is not actually a solution. Traditional partitioning will only give me a maximum partition of 2.1TB. I don’t actually use Windoze but need it for some older programs. I have decided to not create a Windoze partition but install it on a Virtual Box inside Linux. So I need to find a way of booting what I’ve installed. The root partition (sda4) is flagged as ‘boot’ but it won’t!
I do not think you will be able to boot this drive using Grub Legacy that is used with openSUSE. My suggestion is to use a smaller hard drive, at least below 2.1 TB to boot from or even consider using a much smaller SSD like the 120 TB I have as that is what I use. Then, its possible to use the larger drive as a data drive for video or other large files. Here was one tutorial on the subject I found:
Linux Creating a Partition Size Larger Than 2TB
For now, few system, even Windows, can boot a 3 TB drive and its better to use a more compatible drive to boot openSUSE.
Thank You,
I have already got it to boot using Windoze 7, it’s enough that the installation media contains files named *.efi Linux should boot to a >2.1TB hdd using either Grub2 or Elilo but both packages are missing from the 64bit installation DVD. Maybe it’s a SuSe oversight but it’s now October and the I got the first 11.4 install DVD in March and the 64bit in August so they should have noticed it by now!
On 10/06/2011 05:26 PM, ghep wrote:
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> I have already got it to boot using Windoze 7, it’s enough that the
> installation media contains files named *.efi Linux should boot to a
>> 2.1TB hdd using either Grub2 or Elilo but both packages are missing
> from the 64bit installation DVD. Maybe it’s a SuSe oversight but it’s
> now October and the I got the first 11.4 install DVD in March and the
> 64bit in August so they should have noticed it by now!
Are you expecting the 11.4 installation media to be updated? That never happens.
Any updates are made available in the repos, but the installation media are
never changed.
I have already got it to boot using Windoze 7, it’s enough that the installation media contains files named *.efi Linux should boot to a >2.1TB hdd using either Grub2 or Elilo but both packages are missing from the 64bit installation DVD. Maybe it’s a SuSe oversight but it’s now October and the I got the first 11.4 install DVD in March and the 64bit in August so they should have noticed it by now!
So at present there is no solution I know of using openSUSE to allow it to boot from a hard drive configured as 3 TB. I suggest you give one of the other distro’s a try and if you find something that works, lets us know about it. You can find links to everything that exists here at this site: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. and good luck.
Thank You,
You’ve got a point there, oops, now I’ll have too find a way of downloading the packages separately and loading them. I had tried a ‘Net’ install but with no luck. I’ll try it again using a Realtek PCI network card instead of the onboard Intel one.
On 2011-10-07 00:26, ghep wrote:
>
> I have already got it to boot using Windoze 7, it’s enough that the
> installation media contains files named *.efi Linux should boot to a
>> 2.1TB hdd using either Grub2 or Elilo but both packages are missing
> from the 64bit installation DVD. Maybe it’s a SuSe oversight but it’s
> now October and the I got the first 11.4 install DVD in March and the
> 64bit in August so they should have noticed it by now!
Grub2 is experimental here and no supported by yast, so you have to install
it manually. Elilo I do not know.
About updating the released media that doesn’t ever happen unless for
critical issues reported with a known solution, which is not the case. You
can, however, try the current factory version 12.1, and report the issue
for it, before the release in a month.
But do not expect that grub2 will be supported if it isn’t yet.
If Ubuntu boots (it has grub2), I have heard of people using a small ubuntu
setup to boot opensuse instead.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
You might try:
- Manually partition (using partd and GPT partition table) the drive. You should not even need a /boot as you will install grub2 later, but if you like make a separate /boot
- Perform install of the OS
- You won’t be able to boot due to the grub issue, so boot to a live CD, set up networking, chroot to your newly installed suse system, and install grub2, replacing grub1
Granted, there will be some snags to work through along the way, but I believe that would get you where you wish.
Though I prefer legacy grub, grub2 is actual very stable and works quite well, and I see no reason if installed post-OS install you can not simply set up grub2 to boot.
Hi
@ghep, if you jump onto SuSE Studio Welcome - SUSE Studio you can build up your own version, by default it uses the update repository, so you will get the latest releases (kernel etc). Plus add additional requirements as required.
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> If Ubuntu boots (it has grub2), I have heard of people using a small ubuntu
> setup to boot opensuse instead.
Yes, I have a couple of machines where I usually use opensuse but Ubuntu
is installed and it controls the booting via grub2.
I had answered this a couple of days ago but when I posted it Murphy shut down my connection until tonight! Thanks for the link I tried with Fedora 16 beta and it did install but no dual booting. It used Elilo but I couldn’t get it to see the Windoze partition. I have also installed Suse 11.4 x64, Suse 12.1, both from DVD and Net. It installs but always has problems with the Bootloader. Elilo points to /boot for vmlinuz and initrd. But /boot is empty. I have found those files but in /mnt/boot/efi/efi/Suse.
BTW I removed Windoze completely because I thought it would be better if I installed it into a Virtual Box within Linux.
Is it possible to boot Linux with no Bootloader installed?
Just failed another install with message :- use of uninitialised value $type in string eq at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.14.1/Bootloader/Core/ELILO.pm line 550 (also 401 later).
Ah well back to the grindstone! Thanks again
On 2011-10-09 07:16, ghep wrote:
> Is it possible to boot Linux with no Bootloader installed?
No.
And I don’t think you will be able to install a bootloader on that disk
automatically with openSUSE, just not supported.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Something just doesn’t add up, on the SuSe 12.1 KDE Live installation there is a package named ‘Grub2-efi’ It must be able to boot high capacity disks or it was a waste of time developing it! The problem is that I can’t find any support for it, the Grub2-efi directory has a lot of *.mod files in it and I don’t think I should point the bootloader to an initrd or vmlinuz file for an efi boot. So I don’t know how I should configure it.
On 2011-10-10 00:36, ghep wrote:
> Something just doesn’t add up, on the SuSe 12.1 KDE Live installation
> there is a package named ‘Grub2-efi’
Even if it is there you can not activate it with YaST or the install DVD.
You have to do it on your own, manually.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
I had a quick look at it last night but it’s all so vague because using a konsole there is only a ‘grub’ interface, grub2 or grub-efi are ‘unknown commands’ Then reading :- 11.1 Boot Loader Install Problem it says you have to activate it using Yast.
That’s what I would probably do to save time. Install a minimal Ubuntu or Debian squeeze with Grub2 in a small partition. Run update-grub there to add a boot entry for openSUSE. Let us know if it works … or/and install Grub2 at a later point under openSUSE. I haven’t tried, but it’s available. Actually, I wonder how many people here boot openSUSE with native Grub2.
Hmmm … what about installing openSUSE’s Legacy Grub in the boot sector of a separate /boot partition, writing this bootsector to a file:
dd if=/dev/sdxN of=opensuse.bin bs=512 count=1
- sdxN beeing the /boot partition (for example: sda3, sda5, etc).
copying the file opensuse.bin in your Windows partition and loading it from the Windows boot manager. I don’t know if it’s going to work (with your 3TB HD), but someone has to try. 
On 2011-10-10 01:36, ghep wrote:
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> robin_listas;2392126 Wrote:
>>
>> Even if it is there you can not activate it with YaST or the install
>> DVD.
>> You have to do it on your own, manually.
>>
>
> I had a quick look at it last night but it’s all so vague because using
> a konsole there is only a ‘grub’ interface, grub2 or grub-efi are
> ‘unknown commands’ Then reading :- ‘11.1_Boot_Loader_Install_Problem’
> (http://tinyurl.com/3rl4fwh) it says you have to activate it using
> Yast.
No, what YaST installs is grub version 1. You can not install version 2, it
is not supported yet, it has not been developed.
Try in year 2014.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)