Th admin password is working, but no box appears to enter it? Huh?
On 2011-02-21 20:06, bossey1 wrote:
>
> When I click on an rpm on a website the normal behaviour used to be that
> a dialogue would appear asking:
> Do you want to install this file.
> You could click -install- or -close-
What program are you using to click on? Firefox? Opera? Nautilus? That is
important.
> Can anybody please help me here.
> I Use:
> Acer Aspire 5600 Centrino Duo Laptop
> 2GB Ram
> openSUSE 11.3 Education
> Gnome
People, this is not the standard 11.3, it may have different bugs.
The behaviour he explains is correct: you click with a certain browser on
an rpm file, and “something” is started that attempts to install that rpm,
asking for the password. It could be packagekit, yast… It could do
dependency solving, or not.
The problem is that this does not happen for him - not that there are other
methods.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Thank you Saludos. You understand the issue.
I use Firefox. The problem is the same if I download the rpm and click on it in nautilus. My only option at present is to use yast repository manager to add the repo then software manager to install or
download and use zypper
or rpm ivh
openSUSE Education is officially sanctioned and is available here… Archive:Education-Li-f-e - openSUSE Wiki
This was working before so some update or library change or setting may have caused the problem. I undestand it is not a show stopper
It is just annoying to have a problem and not understand the cause even if it cannot be fixed yet.
On 2011-02-22 21:06, bossey1 wrote:
>> –
>> Cheers / Saludos,
>>
>> Carlos E. R.
>> (from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
>
> Thank you Saludos. You understand the issue.
Er… my name is not “saludos”, that’s a salutation in Spanish. I don’t
have a choice of language template in Thunderbird, so my signature is
dual-language.
> I use Firefox. The problem is the same if I download the rpm and click
> on it in nautilus. My only option at present is to use yast repository
> manager to add the repo then software manager to install or
> download and use zypper
> or rpm ivh
I tested briefly the feature in 11.2 with FF, and the install triggers; I
do not know if it completes or not, I aborted (I don’t have an innocuous
rpm to install at the moment)
> openSUSE Education is officially sanctioned and is available here…
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Education-Li-f-e
Er… It is a buildservice project, it is not an official openSUSE product,
as far I know. I’m not saying there is a problem with it, only that it is
not the standard 11.3 that most people here use, so comparisons have to be
done with a bit of care.
You could try the education subforum here :-?
However, in the link you posted it mentions:
Report Bugs
Report here → >
<http://devzilla.novell.com/education/enter_bug.cgi?classification=openSUSE-Education+Live-Media&product=openSUSE-Edu-KIWI-LTSP-live&submit=submit>
But the link produces a:
403 Forbidden
Access to this page is restricted because of access control policies.
Go figure.
> This was working before so some update or library change or setting may
> have caused the problem. I undestand it is not a show stopper
> It is just annoying to have a problem and not understand the cause even
> if it cannot be fixed yet.
Possibly. It triggers packagekit in my 11.2.
You could try creating a new user, and test with that one. If it fails, it
is a global failure; if not, a user problem.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Looks like this is not something new. There are previous queries right here on this forum. I still do not know why this happens and it is a sad reflection on openSUSE that there have been so many queries of the same problem and through different openSUSE versions without any one who might be in the know from SUSE responding.
Here are just a few:
Has it been reported in Bugzilla. If not then the developers will most likely never see it.
On 02/27/2011 04:06 PM, bossey1 wrote:
>
> I still do not know why this happens
and THAT is the problem.
> and it is a
> sad reflection on openSUSE that there have been so many queries of the
> same problem and through different openSUSE versions without any one who
> might be in the know from SUSE responding.
no, it is a sad reflection on the number of ways new, inexperienced
and mostly inept users can murder their system by not knowing what
they are doing or what happens when they do it…but, trying
everything they can think of, based on doing it the way which worked
on some other distribution or operating system…and doing it very
very quickly, with no thought of how to undo what is being done…
and, i might add: without a backup.
> Here are just a few:
>
> ‘I don’t get prompted for root password anymore.’
> (http://tinyurl.com/66gskx8)
this has never ever happened to me and thousands and thousands of
others, and i’ve been using Linux since 1998…but, i read how-to
before i try to…
> ‘very strange behavior after upgrading from 10.3 to 11.2’
> (http://tinyurl.com/6e7gubw)
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade
“upgrading” from 10.3 to 11.2 is UNsupported, you should therefore
expect no only strange behavior, but complete system failure…
> ‘gnome keyring socket problem in new install of 11.2’
> (http://tinyurl.com/6j56n7z)
no doubt a user setup problem–OR every gnome would have the problem,
and they do not!
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
I smell something…
llort
or maybe I have things back to front
On 02/27/2011 06:36 PM, caf4926 wrote:
> I smell something…
in my opinion, sometimes some things need to be seen from a different
point of view…and said distinctly…
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
On 2011-02-27 17:45, DenverD wrote:
>> ‘very strange behavior after upgrading from 10.3 to 11.2’
>> (http://tinyurl.com/6e7gubw)
> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade
>
> “upgrading” from 10.3 to 11.2 is UNsupported, you should therefore
> expect no only strange behavior, but complete system failure…
I object to this >:-)
Doing a zypper dup was not supported. Upgrading from 10.3 to 11.2 was
indeed supported at the time, via DVD.
I have done that same update several times without problems, and one of
them was 32 to 64 bits at the same time.
I expect upgrades to work, and if they fail, they can be repaired.
Reinstalling is surrender.
True, you need experience and skill to do it >:-)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Well right here is the problem!!!
Holyier than thou people such as you.
1/. Well sir you choose to denigrate my experience witout knowing what it is or how long I have been using linux and just assume I have carried over windows’ way of doing things.
2/. Your assumption is wrong and you suggest that a mistake or error in something is tantamount to having no knowledge or experience.
3/. Worse than all people are the ones who give linux a bad name by behaving in such an idiotic and insulting fashion without even having the courtesy to at least offer something useful toward the issue.
4/. I have backups but since I don’t know why it is suddenly not working what do you suggest I restore, and as I have established the problem is global as opposed to effecting 1 account, why would a restore be preferable to wiping / and re-installing with my seperate /home intact.
I don’t care if you have used linux since 98 (so have I), your expertise has certainly been of no use to me. Please proffer something useful or shut up and go away.
Well right here is the problem!!!
Holyier than thou people such as you.
1/. Well sir you choose to denigrate my experience witout knowing what it is or how long I have been using linux and just assume I have carried over windows’ way of doing things.
2/. Your assumption is wrong and you suggest that a mistake or error in something is tantamount to having no knowledge or experience.
3/. Worse than all people are the ones who give linux a bad name by behaving in such an idiotic and insulting fashion without even having the courtesy to at least offer something useful toward the issue.
4/. I have backups but since I don’t know why it is suddenly not working what do you suggest I restore, and as I have established the problem is global as opposed to effecting 1 account, why would a restore be preferable to wiping / and re-installing with my seperate /home intact.
I don’t care if you have used linux since 98 (so have I), your expertise has certainly been of no use to me. Please proffer something useful or shut up and go away.
You quote examples. All of which are user inspired and have no supporting evidence (ie; a plethora of users with the same issue and or bug reports) to suggest otherwise.
It’s a common trait for workmen to blame their tools for what amounts to a ‘cockup’
I find windows users have the same tendency. It’s true, Windows has vulnerabilities, but it’s user error mostly that permits their exploitation.*
On 02/27/2011 11:06 PM, bossey1 wrote:
> Well right here is the problem!!!
> Holyier than thou people such as you.
yep! no doubt about it: i am the reason you are having problems!
since you have been using linux since '98 i’d expect you to be able to
recognize a bug when you see one, and report it here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports
or, untangle the system which made a collection of setup errors appear
as if a bug. [a task aided greatly by restoring from a backup taken
prior to the bug’s arrival…]
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
caf4926
Based on your previous contributions to my original posting I am frankly surprised and disappointed at this response…
I do not disagree with any of your comments however ‘a bad workmen and his tools’ is not always the problem.
It is more than feasible (and not unknown to happen) that an update (zypper or you) can cause this type of problem.
All in all my problem is that most who have responded here have been positive even if it is to say something unrelated to the issue
and I fail to see what help can be porffered by some attitudes even if I had made a mistake. God forbid I had been a complete novice
and received that sort of welcome.
I’m sorry, but you have me all wrong.
If it’s help you need or even just to reason out a ‘why’…
I’m ready and willing. If I have given you a different opinion, I apologise profusely.
I must admit, one of your earlier posts had me thinking of something rather negative, as all I could see was unsubstantiated criticism.
Add to that, my personal experience of (zero) issues along those lines. I guess I may have reacted in a not so helpful way. Sorry.
Hope we can help as and when.
DenverD
What exactly is your point and what are you even doing on this forum.
yep! no doubt about it: i am the reason you are having problems!
I did not say you are the reason I am having problems. If you were then my problem would be easily solved by
just ignoring you.
I said attitudes like yours are the reason most people stick with things like windows and do not venture into anything unknown.
They have to wonder if they should have the audacity to ask for help.
since you have been using linux since '98 i’d expect you to be able to
recognize a bug when you see one, and report it here:
openSUSE:Submitting bug reports - openSUSE
You said it was a bug. I did not so no need to report it there. What’s your point?
or, untangle the system which made a collection of setup errors appear
as if a bug. [a task aided greatly by restoring from a backup taken
prior to the bug’s arrival…]
In my humble opinion unless the installation is customised to a fair degree it can often be quicker to just re-install especially given
that I have a seperate home partition. But should this be the case everytime I may make a mistake just cos’ I may not know how the mistake was made.
In my years using linux many a community member has helped me avoid just that and in the process I have learned a great deal.
Again, what is your point?
I don’t mean to be rude or even upset you and your philosophy of “Just tell it as it is” but what was the value of your contributipon to me in this instance?
I may even view some of your points as instructional (perform regular backups, report bugs etc) but the tone is baiting and generally unhelpful.
I refuse to believe that in your years with IT no one has been helpful in getting you out of a spot.
As for untangling the problem I am beginning to suspect either the parallel installation of policykit and polkit in openSUSE 11.3. or the packagekit browser plugin.
I had a very recent problem with usb sticks and cdroms not auto-mounting and recovered from this with a quick re-install, having recorded the applications before hand. Alas this did not cure the problem I am currently focusing on.
What ever the case I still object to the overall value of your initial comments. Sorry!
Thank you caf4926. That is constructive and the offer of help is always welcome and appreciated. I did not mean to criticise at all, only to rouse attention at a problem that is described frequently on the web. It is even mentioned on some ubuntu forums and I fully acknowledge that it probably is my ****-up.
:shame:
On 2011-02-28 21:06, bossey1 wrote:
> I did not mean to criticise at all,
> only to rouse attention at a problem that is described frequently on the
> web.
Sorry, but IMO only one of the links posted is the same problem as yours.
The first link.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On 02/28/2011 09:06 PM, bossey1 wrote:
> What ever the case I still object to the overall value of your initial
> comments. Sorry!
and, i object to the overall tone and lack of factual basis of your
post #25 wherein you said:
“it is a sad reflection on openSUSE that there have been so many
queries of the same problem and through different openSUSE versions
without any one who might be in the know from SUSE responding.”
and then gave three examples which are not widely occurring due to
bugs, but rather inappropriate user actions…
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11